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Do You think President Bush is a nutter?
Yes 26%  26%  [ 20 ]
Yes 26%  26%  [ 20 ]
No, but he is not good for the world. 12%  12%  [ 9 ]
No, but he is not good for the world. 12%  12%  [ 9 ]
No, he is a good guy. 9%  9%  [ 7 ]
No, he is a good guy. 9%  9%  [ 7 ]
Don't Know 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Don't Know 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 76

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12 Oct 2005, 2:36 pm

Both sides are fighting the war the best they can and both sides dont worry about a few-thousand lives here or there but most real terrorists in history have been shown to be working on behalf of governments but it always seems to be the private civillians or smaller non-'allied' governments that get labelled terrorists and animals. How convienent :roll: . The Native Americans where labelled animals and would be labelled terrorists these days if they still had anything but a token amount of land and lives left in the US.



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12 Oct 2005, 2:54 pm

It is to bad neither side really cares that the lives it takes, they both just worry about there own causes. That is what get people killed.

People with real issues that get a label put on them and should not get that label, it is to bad they do get that label.

It is to bad the the Native American have gotten the worsted of it.



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12 Oct 2005, 3:04 pm

Yes i agree. The UN cant even agree on what constitutes a terrorist so it is all a matter of opinion. Every country and movement is looking out for their own interests and lives dont seem to matter that much to them, otherwise we all would work out things globally to have everyone in the world have a respectable living standard.



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12 Oct 2005, 3:13 pm

If we all did have respectable living standards. We all would be better off, then we might not have these terrorist in our lives.



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12 Oct 2005, 3:22 pm

Yes it would help because the world is more global and the poor continents know how good we have it here, there's no hiding it and then we go and stick our noses in, in poorer parts of the world and plunder their resources and weild power over them. I could see how this would result in resentment leading to trouble. If living standards was raised across the world there would be more peace and it would be more stable. This would also help solve the problem of the foreigners influxing western civilisations to beyond breaking point which are creating ghettos and lowering living standards here anyway.



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12 Oct 2005, 3:22 pm

kevv729 wrote:
If we all did have respectable living standards. We all would be better off, then we might not have these terrorist in our lives.


First piece of sense I've heard you say all week, Kev. :roll:



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12 Oct 2005, 3:37 pm

The governments and business do not truly to invest in the poorer countries of this world. If they truly did invest in these countries the world would be better off. When they do all they truly want is sorry to say is to rape them of there resources.



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12 Oct 2005, 3:50 pm

RobertN wrote:
kevv729 wrote:
If we all did have respectable living standards. We all would be better off, then we might not have these terrorist in our lives.


First piece of sense I've heard you say all week, Kev. :roll:
You think so. I try to be sensible in my veiws sometimes.



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12 Oct 2005, 4:09 pm

kevv729 wrote:
The governments and business do not truly to invest in the poorer countries of this world. If they truly did invest in these countries the world would be better off. When they do all they truly want is sorry to say is to rape them of there resources.


I agree. Big Corporations are the evil of our time, Kev!! !!



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12 Oct 2005, 6:58 pm

eamonn wrote:
Both sides are fighting the war the best they can and both sides dont worry about a few-thousand lives here or there but most real terrorists in history have been shown to be working on behalf of governments but it always seems to be the private civillians or smaller non-'allied' governments that get labelled terrorists and animals. How convienent :roll: . The Native Americans where labelled animals and would be labelled terrorists these days if they still had anything but a token amount of land and lives left in the US.
People who fly jetliners into office buildings and kill thousands of innocent workers who simply got up in the morning and went to work, with no military target or provocation at all, are terrorists. It's impossible to see it any other way.

Perhaps you should take a little stroll to downtown New York City and get the whole picture.



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12 Oct 2005, 7:12 pm

The world's most dangerous terrorist today:

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12 Oct 2005, 7:47 pm

How does showing his picture and calling him a nutter support that statement? How about a discussion based upon issues and facts?
It may or may not be in the world's or the USA's best interests to have troops in Iraq. But it is absurd to somehow view them as equivalent to AlQuaeda terrorists.



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12 Oct 2005, 7:57 pm

Litguy wrote:
How does showing his picture and calling him a nutter support that statement? How about a discussion based upon issues and facts?
It may or may not be in the world's or the USA's best interests to have troops in Iraq. But it is absurd to somehow view them as equivalent to AlQuaeda terrorists.

You're right, it's not an equivalent comparison because Bush has taken more innocent civilian's lives than Al Qaeda could ever dream of.

100,000 Iraqi civilians dead, says study.



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12 Oct 2005, 8:31 pm

Litguy wrote:
It may or may not be in the world's or the USA's best interests to have troops in Iraq. But it is absurd to somehow view them as equivalent to AlQuaeda terrorists.


I was comparing Bush to Al-Qaeda terrorists. I never said that I think the troops are equivalent to Al-Qaeda terrorists. I believe the complete opposite of that. The troops are just doing their jobs, and I hope that they all return safely.

Bush is the one who had them go to Iraq. It was his decision. It is his fault that so many innocent Iraqis are dead. Bush is also the one responsible for the deaths of American troops. According to him, not only do the lives of innocent Iraqis not matter, the lives of Americans don't matter either.



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12 Oct 2005, 8:44 pm

I think Bush should have truly kept the war in Afghanistan, if he have would any of us be talking about this?



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12 Oct 2005, 8:48 pm

kevv729 wrote:
I think Bush should have truly kept the war in Afghanistan, if he have would any of us be talking about this?


There would still be complaints, but not as many.