"_______ is responsible for the Holocaust!"
All you have to do is replace "Fascism" with "Right Wing of the Catholic Church" and the statement is still correct. Keep in mind that the holocaust was caried out by many other nationalities besides the Germans. Almost all were Catholics, and anti-semitism was rampant in Catholocism at the time.
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Actually though I basically agreed with the whole post other than that one statement about native americans being the only to never have a genocide. Even red folks, depending on what tribes they belonged to have had genocides among themselves. That's not to say there weren't some very peaceful and good natured tribes as well. But... The entire human race is pretty much like... the savages. I believe there is good and evil in everyone. People are slow to see how they'll do things they themselves would stone others to death for doing...
I agree though with everything else, you seem to have a very critical way of looking at things, I do to. Criticism gets such a bad rep but it shouldn't, it's necessary to the survival of free speech.
The ---human--- race are the savages. I mean, I respect the Native Americans dude, honestly, because they resisted the Masonic systems for a long time, hince why most natives were wiped out (a sad fact). But, the Natives stood their ground, fought hard, and sacrificed, and I have respect for that, indeed. They'd say "white man speaks with forked toungue", and they were reffering to double speak.
But every race has had genocides. Even the Natives, the Aztecs for one, were quite a brutal empire.
I don't think Aztecs are considered native americans more so than they are considered mesoamericans.
I never understand the mentality of the "neo-azteks". I find it stupid. The spanish conquest was an event which had many consequences to the americas, many of which I feel is outweighed by the good than the bad.
the parallel was one designed to show the similarities of Mexican invaders and German stormtroopers. They may be from different time periods but their goal is the same.
Go ahead and be of Mexican descent.. who the bloody hell ever had a problem with that? But if you live in America, be an American first and that involves protecting this country from the current invasion.
Anyway enough of this here on the holocaust thread.
You want to catch up and bounce your "politically correct"
Mexican minded opinions off me.. find me elsewhere.
Your kind really irritates me and frankly if your kind was shot dead I couldn't care less.
The ability to trivialize such horrific events and the audacity to compare them to lesser unrelated event is what makes you arrogant and ignorant.
I am pretty sure you are not kidding as you made a statement about not laughing. Either way, go on believing what you want. After all, you're given the liberties to do so.
They were his opinions and thats a fact
No, they are THE FACTS.
Yeah when say it that way your right we all have the ability to commit evil and if the the right mixture of events happen a whole society can tuirn into somthing like the nazis and considering rwanda its was a former belegian colony when they left control to the tutsi ethinc group and they mistreated the huttu group but in the 1990'sthe power shifted to the huttus and they saw it nesscearry to seek revenge of the mistreatment at the hands of the tutsi's but still thats not excuse but thats what learned about it but i dont know if its true or even the events in the balkans in the nineties. Sorry if i spelt anything wrong.
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The ---human--- race are the savages. I mean, I respect the Native Americans dude, honestly, because they resisted the Masonic systems for a long time, hince why most natives were wiped out (a sad fact). But, the Natives stood their ground, fought hard, and sacrificed, and I have respect for that, indeed. They'd say "white man speaks with forked toungue", and they were reffering to double speak.
But every race has had genocides. Even the Natives, the Aztecs for one, were quite a brutal empire.
Sing to the tune of your favorite schoolyard silly-song:
What the Germans did to the Jews
might be really photogenic
in an oh-my-god-how-tragic-was-that wa-ay-ay
but every nation in this great world
has done something they're not proud of
in every single country mass murder will have its day
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Legal according to the definition of the European invaders. From the Pilgrim Fathers to the first 100 years of the existence of the USA, I can't remember any treaty with Native Americans that the European settlers or the US government didn't break. But my knowledge of the history of that conquest is not perfect. Perhaps you can find one treaty that was honoured, or even several. If there are any unbroken treaties from those several hundred years, I think they will be a small fraction. That's not a good basis for arguing the legality of your ancestors' immigration.
Mexican immigrants cross the border to increase the "Lebensraum" of the master race? I didn't know that. Well, you live and learn.
But it also incorporated a decidedly non-romantic, medicalized, bureaucratic, industrial attitude toward running the state and, um, killing the Jews. Romantic antisemitism consists of riots. This was the furthest thing from riots (ignore Krystalnacht; everybody but Goebbels considered it an embarrassing incident best forgotten); this was a passionless war machine. Nazi romanticism was a front to keep the average German stupid.
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Thats right.. live and learn baby
dont believe it?
Google this:
Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada
(rough translation)
“For the race everything, outside the race nothing"
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Thats right.. live and learn baby
dont believe it?
Google this:
Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada
(rough translation)
“For the race everything, outside the race nothing"
The Mexicans are not organized enough to perpetrate a genocide of white people. There may be extremist Mexicans (there are always extremist anythings), but most illegal immigrants are just trying to improve their lives a little. That does not make illegal immigration okay, per se, but it makes it less threatening than most people tend to think.
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Caustic Ideas topic
There are many roads to the Jewish genocide known as the Holocaust.
There are many roads that lead to any genocide. This is a very complex topic and one I have been studying for forty years.
Characteristics of states and nations prone to racism and genocide.
The following characteristics were developed from my extensive research over a forty year period, and written after reading the highly informative book by Dwork and Van Pelt entitled Holocaust: A History (2000). No one characteristic can be viewed in isolation, and such generalities may invite criticism. However, taken as a whole, these characteristics can serve as a warning to those studying conflict-prone countries and governments in a contemporary context.
1. Recent Statehood (especially less than fifty years).
2. Arbitrarily set geographical borders (e.g. Balkan states)
3. Political and Economic instability (internal and external regimes influencing each other)
4. Small or non-existent middle class, large underclass and small, yet very wealthy upper class. Clash of classes can and does occur
5. History of political violence and rapid change of government via military coups; one party states without free elections
6. Xenophobic, isolationist and militaristic government policies
7. Perceived threat of cultural minorities (leading to scapegoating)
8. Confusion of state and nation; trying to regain a perceived loss of identity/culture
9. Belief in right to annihilate perceived political/economic threat, either internal, external, or both. Such ideas are often entombed in books such as mein kampf
10. Loss of territory due to war and/or land concessions
11. Weak/non-existent domestic Bill of Rights and/or refusal to concede to Universal United Nations Human Rights
12. Tendency to revise history to suit prevailing mythology, no separation of church/state, i.e. that the church is the state and vice versa
One of the posters made a statement at the bottom of his post that Baby Boomers are the cause of all the world's ills. I could say the same thing about my parents.
An interesting topic, MissPickwickian.
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I don’t think it’s possible to identify a single philosophy that lead to Nazism. It was definitely a combination of a bunch of cultural elements. With such a vfickle subject it’s difficult to get a true honest intellectual analysis. Everyone likes to use the Nazism as tar baby to stick the political opposition.
People on the right tend to paint materialism and Darwinism as the root of nazi ideology while people on the left like to paint military nationalism and social conservatism as the root. In reality I think all of these ideas were partially responsible, but the people making the arguments aren’t always too intellectually honest IMO.
While there was definitely was a strong element of materialism in the eugenics movement, the right is mistaken when they make the claim that Nazi materialism was a secular movement. The Nazi’s may have perverted some Christian ideals, but they certainly didn’t oppose the Christian religion. Christian anti-Semitism was still alive and well in Nazi Germany.
I agree..
if what you mean by "trying improve their lives a little" involves taking advantage free healthcare, welfare, education and numerous other American taxpayer funded social programs intended to aid lower income Americans only.
Believe what you will but make no mistake, what is happening on the southern border is nothing short of war. When will we wake up and realize that the rights of Americans are being jeopardized by the citizens of a foreign nation, who are siezing the opportunity (by abusing the benevolent and generous nature of those such as yourself) to gain a foothold and apply pressure designed to consume and bankrupt our country? At what point will the rights of American citizens on American soil finally be protected?
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