Shariah Rule in Britain?

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Not sure about this particular group of people, but generally Morocco is considered very liberal in terms of religion. The King has passed a very liberal family law giving women practically equal rights as men, very revolutionary for the North Africa region. Also, Moroccan nightlife is quite close to western nightlife, no prudish attitudes in Casablancas bars etc. Other religions can worship without hassle in Morocco, so generally it is very liberal.

I would question that...when Mohamed VI decided to give the women equal rights he had demonstrations by women (probably sent to the streets by their fundmentalist husbands) to demonstrate against it.

Morrocan male society keeps a keen eye on their young women, especially when dad is not at home and the girls go out, either brother, cousin or neighbour will see to it that 'they behave'.

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That attitude is purely cultural, which will eventually disappear with education and development, as it did so in the west.

While it will take time before the new rules are being noticed in the strees everywhere, the fact that the King passes this law in itself is quite a remarkable fact and proves Morocco is on the right track. Also, in some local cities you see a nightlife not different from most European countries, and women actively participate. Even when there is some male relative nearby, they still have a lot more liberties than the average woman in the Gulf countries. Can you imagine a girl going to a nightclub in Saudi Arabia?? Morocco may not be as liberal as the average EU nation, but is definitely relatively liberal compared to countries of the same cultural background. Tunesia is another such example, and Lebanon and Jordan. I dont want to name Turkey as this is culturally a different entity.

I don't think that the bill was voted, due to the protests. The young king was highly popular in his first year, he even made up for his dad and visited the Rif people who welcomed him with love and respect. But most of his promises failed to materialise and now many years after not so much is different.
The first thing he did was get rid of his father's right hand man. Also rumours have it that he is gay. This was then publicised in the Netherlands by a gay magazine, after which young Moroccans went mad in Rotterdam and Amsterdam rioting like hell.

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Not racist. How could it possibly be racist? May be nationalistic, but definitely not racist.

Why should i care about what NT's tell you? If they tell you to shut up, I would side with them.


Most people who emigrate to the US begin to act like an American. If the american culture is too much for them they should leave. I would not move to Dubai to live like an American.

Note that the keyword was "Force". The second part of my statement was "strong". Yes, a weaker form of it would have been to integrate. I felt the stronger form had more of an impact.

Why would someone give up his cultural identity purely for the sake of immigration? I have emigrated 5x times in my life already, and never changed my attitude at all. Basic respect for the culture of your new home country: yes, sure. Changing your own cultural backgrounds: only when you wish so, but it should never be obligatory. To experience another culture in your own back yard is a privilege, you seem to be afraid of it instead of wanting to learn from it.

But...it's the United States of Dubai!

Did any of the Irish or so many other immigrants (except for a few oddballs like trappers and so on) adopt the native American culture? NO...did they return to their homeland? No!! So, what are you talking about, grandson of immigrants????

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Exactly. It is like a Western enclave in the desert. 80 percent of the population are non Arabs, the mosques are harder to find than the shopping malls. This is also why, while I would love to move back to the Middle East, I am not applying for jobs in Dubai. I want to really feel like in a Middle Eastern place and not like some US colony in the desert. Authentic Middle Eastern cities would include (not limited to) Beirut, Damascus, Mecca, Muscat, Amman, Jerusalem, Cairo, ... Dubai is almost a newly constructed city with no historical and authentic feeling like all those other cities. Westerners are already having taken over Dubai without adapting to the local culture, on the contrary the Arabs are adapting to make life as comfortable as possible for the majority of population who are expats.

Islam isn't replacing Christianity, Britain is losing Religion. It's really no different than elsewhere in Western Europe...yes, there is an influx of Muslims, but religion on the whole is just going down. Not as a result of conversion, otherwise the Atheist/Agnostic rate wouldn't be going up so much.

I'm not at all worried about Christianity being lost in Britain. I'd prefer a secular country.

That said, Muslim culture has sometimes removed British culture. When I read this thread the first thing that came to mind was how Muslims had a dog removed from a British police advert...because they don't like dogs.

Lol, excellent point!



Yeah, lol, most of the Westerners there were almost up in arms there when the government decided to ban topless sunbathing. There are Indian dance bars there when the same are banned in India. Dubai is the drug and prostitution capital of the middle east. Vodka laced with diamonds is the rich people's drink of choice. Living there, the only mosque in the neighbourhood (Meadows 5) was a five minute walk away, but the shopping mall with McDonald's was just a 30 second walk away.



That's stupid. The Ban on dogs is not mentioned in the Qur'an. Muslims dislike dogs because the archangel Gabriel (AHS) did not enter to meet the prophet (S) when a puppy was in the same room as him. He later said that it angels don't enter areas where there are dogs. Based on this, the prophet (S) said that it is not good to keep a dog at home, except for the purpose of protection, hunting, or any other reason where the dog can be put to use. The police have every right to use a dog.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leic ... 633623.stm

The glizty skyscrapers are relatively recent but the city itself has been around for a while. Here is a picture of Dubai from the 1960s before the skyscraper boom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:AlRa ... d1960s.jpg

You know, honestly, if I wanted to make a case for benign immigration, or any manner of immigration you would expect the native population to be behind, the last analogy on earth I would use would be that of the replacement of native Americans with Euro-Americans. I mean, really.

Nope, they exterminated the natives. Therefore, using your own paradigm, the inhabitants of the UK should treat the Muslim immigrants like a genocidal swarm that, if allowed to continue, will result in the extermination of English, Scottish, and other British cultures, except for a few tiny, poverty-ridden "reservations".

That's using your own example to its logical conclusion.