Does President Bush Deserve a Shoe in the Face?

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He broke the Geneva Convention, which makes him no different from Hitler.

If this crime can be exempted then we're in trouble. I'm shocked at how this event was sweeped under the rug like nothing.

That's one of many examples why Bush deserves a shoe in the face. He has no right to justify an immunity against the crime that was commited at the Abu Ghraib prison.

Veterans of unpopular wars often receive vitriol from the public. At least in THIS unpopular war, the vitriol is being aimed at the people actually responsible... those who call the shots, not those who do the shooting.

I have to agree that is a big improvement.

On the other hand when we look at the idea that the intelligence for Iraq came from even more middle-eastern countries than western it provides a much different picture than the 'Bush lied people died' proponents are willing to admit. What's most important about the U.S.'s haggling with the UN pre-war and the UN's refusal to let us go in is that they all believed that we were correct in our assertion that Iraq had WMD's, something that the same BLPD people say was only a product of Powell's brainwashing - somehow I can't imagine politically savvy delegates from all over the world having contrary opinions being completely overturned by a semi-charismatic Powell. Some authors such as Kenneth Timmerman (ie. Shadow Warriors) have made allegations that our own CIA, after the 2000 election, had a great many appointees by Clinton and earlier by Carter who already hated Bush for stealing the election and even tried to set him up through all of this; I don't know how much of that I believe to be true, but I can say that there was either a definite short-circuit in intelligence all around the globe or alternatively its just as well that the WMD's could have been destroyed or moved to Syria in anticipation of US invasion, we did give Saddam quite a while on that.

What disgusts me about what's going on here is that there's no intellectual honesty in this conversation. People aren't arguing even valid points so much as trying to sheerly scorn-out counter arguments, set up a de facto reality, and say that if you don't buy into the idea that its all about oil (or a Christian war on Islam) and that we're an imperialist country that your somehow just deaf, dumb, ret*d, not worthy of listening to. That's not greatness and clarity, its the self-sheltered mind. In turn, given the a priori that the U.S. is the leader in world atrocities and pillaging of resources, this stops being any kind of real conversation and starts being an ego circle-jerk - something where ironically I find fewer NT's who are this self-righteous (and I think pro-rata that they know how much they don't know, haven't been brought up on the fantasy that they're any sort of misunderstood super-geniuses, it makes me think that psychologists as well need to reassess their diagnosis and fables about AS to just say that we're wired differently in our intake and learning but in every other way are dead-aim normal and not the least bit more 'special' than the next person, otherwise the results are rather gross).

Did you forget the Chretien episode? topic

Jean fought back, with a streetsmart choke hold.

There have been other attempts at Canadian politicians in history, though perhaps not on the scale of Lincoln, the Kennedys or religious leader Martin Luther King. Check out the history of the 1837 Rebellion in Upper Canada and you might be surprised.

Bootin' Bush Game topic

I knew game theory would come through. Better than darts.

Good post.

Bush must have had enough support from the people to become President, maybe we could throw stones or shoes at the people who helped to put him into power.

If someone does take that idea literally I do hope they're a lot bigger than I am - for their sake.

oh good lord how did i miss this? hilarious.