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08 Feb 2009, 7:37 pm

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... - this is verifiable fact.

Go on then. Verify away.

Silly Lau, if you say things like this you'll scare the conspiracy theorists away.


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08 Feb 2009, 7:48 pm

Orwell wrote:
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... - this is verifiable fact.

Go on then. Verify away.

Silly Lau, if you say things like this you'll scare the conspiracy theorists away.

I think you both are missing the vocabulary difference between conspiracy theorists and the average population. Conspiracy theorists consider something a verifiable fact if they can get some questionable sources and out of place quotations to seem to support an idea. Normal people consider something a verifiable fact if there is some logic and good evidence that any reasonable person would accept. You see the difference?



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08 Feb 2009, 8:10 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Orwell wrote:
lau wrote:
ibelieveinoddthings wrote:
... - this is verifiable fact.

Go on then. Verify away.

Silly Lau, if you say things like this you'll scare the conspiracy theorists away.

I think you both are missing the vocabulary difference between conspiracy theorists and the average population. Conspiracy theorists consider something a verifiable fact if they can get some questionable sources and out of place quotations to seem to support an idea. Normal people consider something a verifiable fact if there is some logic and good evidence that any reasonable person would accept. You see the difference?

I think you are giving normal people too much credit.


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08 Feb 2009, 8:12 pm

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I think you are giving normal people too much credit.

Probably, but the main point I was trying to make was that the conspiracy theorist uses a different definition.



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08 Feb 2009, 8:13 pm

I don't believe in it.



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08 Feb 2009, 9:00 pm

ibelieveinoddthings wrote:
Smug and incorrect. The Club of Rome, the Bilderbergs, the Council of Foreign Relations, all real organizations...all working for the same cause. Many of the relatives of the British/European Royals were in fact members of the Third Reich - this is verifiable fact.


The current royal family would be called "Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha" and had of cause a lot of relatives in Germany of some where also Nazi. The only reason why a German house had been called on the throne via the Act of Settlement 1701 was that Sophia von Hanover was via her mother, Elizabeth Electress Palatine and Queen of Bohemia, daughter of James I was the next protestant relative of the Stuarts and the Duke Elector of Brunswick seemed parliament harmless enough to play king.

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The same man who set up notorious hitler youth schools emigrated to the UK and set up schools specifically designed for British Royals to attend (Gordonstoun).


The Hitlerjugend was set-up by a man called Kurt Gruber, who never left Germany.

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Another fact - every US President is directly related the British Royalty including Obama.


After f**cking around for nearly 1000 years, there is hardly any European how is not a fare relative to an nobility.

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The British Royal family are very powerful, if this was not the case why does the UK even still have them because they serve no purpose?


This is an other story: Abolishing the monarchy would mean that Britain would get a constitution. A constitution restricts the power of parliament, or better to say the politicians. The current set up with a formally powerful monarch under the total control of the government is just too convenient for the government to be abolished. When I would be Prime Minister I would be the strongest supporter of the monarchy.



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09 Feb 2009, 10:36 am

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I have aspergers, I think. But more importantly, over the past few years I have become interested in the so-called New World Order conspiracy theory. It is very fascinating because it appears to be real. I have noticed that many people who believe in conspiracy theories tend to have mental health problems. Not that I believe this discredits the actual theories they believe in. Anyway, Im interested do any people on here believe in the NWO and its agenda?


Which NWO? There have been several since humans adapted the agricultural mode of existence. Once we got out of the hunter-gatherer phase societies have become hierarchical with authority and power at the top of the structure. The folks at the bottom see everything as being arranged and plotted by those at the top, which is not all that far from the truth.

The idea of a central kabal is a well assimilated meme in the thinking of many. If something happens it is because They arranged it.


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The NWO is a organized crime group that controls the political, financial and corporate agenda. Their goal is global communist government, a zero growth economy based on the idea of 'sustainable development', a global population of 500 million to 1 billion, a stringent resource rationing system and heavy use of state surveillance. At this head of the New World Order, is the British/European Royal families who believe they are descendants of King David of Israel and a Anglo-Israeli-Zionist mafia.


That's the thing. The majority of people may not believe in them, but they BELIEVE in themselves and that is what truely matters as these people have money, power and care for nothing, but themeselves. Ever heard of the Bilderberg group? Most likely not as the news does not report their activities.
And why? Because so many of our major news outlets are owned by them or their sympathiziers. These people mean business and it is life, personal freedom and maybe death to most of the planet's population.

Notice how all our freedoms are disappearing and many groups such as FEMA in the US are becoming frighteningly more powerful. Read about the power as was mentioned of survellience agencies the world over and how they became so powerful. What is the connection to these groups? Causing people to fear, controlling and dehumanizing people so they may be ruled over or done away with. The world is changing as we know it...God help us.



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09 Feb 2009, 11:51 am

Pook wrote:
Ever heard of the Bilderberg group?
Yes. Tedious stuff.

Pook wrote:
Notice how all our freedoms are disappearing ...
Nope.

Pook wrote:
What is the connection to these groups?
None.

Pook wrote:
Causing people to fear, controlling and dehumanizing people so they may be ruled over or done away with.
:)

Pook wrote:
The world is changing as we know it...
As it does, always has done, and always will do, I hope.

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God help us.
How did he sneak in?


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09 Feb 2009, 3:59 pm

lau wrote:
Pook wrote:
Ever heard of the Bilderberg group?
Yes. Tedious stuff.

Pook wrote:
Notice how all our freedoms are disappearing ...
Nope.

Pook wrote:
What is the connection to these groups?
None.

Pook wrote:
Causing people to fear, controlling and dehumanizing people so they may be ruled over or done away with.
:)

Pook wrote:
The world is changing as we know it...
As it does, always has done, and always will do, I hope.

Pook wrote:
God help us.
How did he sneak in?


Hum,ans are not the world


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09 Feb 2009, 4:17 pm

lau wrote:
Pook wrote:
Ever heard of the Bilderberg group?
Yes. Tedious stuff.

Pook wrote:
Notice how all our freedoms are disappearing ...
Nope.

Pook wrote:
What is the connection to these groups?
None.

Pook wrote:
Causing people to fear, controlling and dehumanizing people so they may be ruled over or done away with.
:)

Pook wrote:
The world is changing as we know it...
As it does, always has done, and always will do, I hope.

Pook wrote:
God help us.
How did he sneak in?


I'm a Christian dude so of course I would express my fears and concerns as such :?



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09 Feb 2009, 4:18 pm

Eggman wrote:
lau wrote:
Pook wrote:
Ever heard of the Bilderberg group?
Yes. Tedious stuff.

Pook wrote:
Notice how all our freedoms are disappearing ...
Nope.

Pook wrote:
What is the connection to these groups?
None.

Pook wrote:
Causing people to fear, controlling and dehumanizing people so they may be ruled over or done away with.
:)

Pook wrote:
The world is changing as we know it...
As it does, always has done, and always will do, I hope.

Pook wrote:
God help us.
How did he sneak in?


Hum,ans are not the world

:?: Um what?



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09 Feb 2009, 4:19 pm

Pook wrote:
Eggman wrote:
lau wrote:
Pook wrote:
Ever heard of the Bilderberg group?
Yes. Tedious stuff.

Pook wrote:
Notice how all our freedoms are disappearing ...
Nope.

Pook wrote:
What is the connection to these groups?
None.

Pook wrote:
Causing people to fear, controlling and dehumanizing people so they may be ruled over or done away with.
:)

Pook wrote:
The world is changing as we know it...
As it does, always has done, and always will do, I hope.

Pook wrote:
God help us.
How did he sneak in?


Hum,ans are not the world


human activies....do creat a world order..old or new..
:?: Um what?


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10 Feb 2009, 10:15 am

ibelieveinoddthings wrote:
The NWO is a organized crime group that controls the political, financial and corporate agenda. Their goal is global communist government, a zero growth economy based on the idea of 'sustainable development', a global population of 500 million to 1 billion, a stringent resource rationing system and heavy use of state surveillance. At this head of the New World Order, is the British/European Royal families who believe they are descendants of King David of Israel and a Anglo-Israeli-Zionist mafia.


You know what's VERY funny? When the NWO conspiracy theory pops up in forums of countries that are friendlier to socialism, the objective of the NWO becomes to make a global capitalist government.


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12 Mar 2009, 5:31 am

probably because they don't understand what capitalism is. the NWO is about the total consolidation of power. with capitalism it is very hard to do this, especially considering it no longer exists. G. Edward Griffin sums it up perfectly:

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[The] free enterprise system has been dead for several decades. It lives in name only. The whole world now is in the grips of non-competitive monopolies and cartels that have forged partnerships with governments. All of the evils to which this program [Zeitgeist Addendum] alludes are the result, not of the free enterprise system, but of the abandonment of free enterprise and the adoption of collectivism. This program creates a mythological boogeyman and then advocates more of the very thing that has brought us to the mess we are in today.



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12 Mar 2009, 8:06 am

Vexcalibur wrote:
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The NWO is a organized crime group that controls the political, financial and corporate agenda. Their goal is global communist government, a zero growth economy based on the idea of 'sustainable development', a global population of 500 million to 1 billion, a stringent resource rationing system and heavy use of state surveillance. At this head of the New World Order, is the British/European Royal families who believe they are descendants of King David of Israel and a Anglo-Israeli-Zionist mafia.


You know what's VERY funny? When the NWO conspiracy theory pops up in forums of countries that are friendlier to socialism, the objective of the NWO becomes to make a global capitalist government.



Wrong. A global fascist government. The Powers That Be hate truly free markets and they want to regulate innovation so that it conforms to their interests. Which is why we don't have a car that gets 100 mpg.

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14 Mar 2009, 8:47 am

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probably because they don't understand what capitalism is. the NWO is about the total consolidation of power. with capitalism it is very hard to do this, especially considering it no longer exists. G. Edward Griffin sums it up perfectly:
No, really, the NWO conspiracy is completely different in socialism-friendly countries. It is about capitalism and monetary power and etc.

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The powers that be

Typing this sets you as the ultimate loony.


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