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11 Apr 2009, 12:55 am

AG - I also made clear that was my own personal definition... it will vary between others, and again, it was providing informally as a topic of conversation and personal perspective, not site criteria. One can argue that specific behaviors are indicative of a pattern of behavior, even if they are not constrained to being within a single individual, but are more universal patterns. It is not my intention to get involved here beyond clarifying what was meant when we were talking in the other thread cited. If you want to analyze that subject, then creating a topic to do so would be appropriate; continuing to take over this one is not, to my way of thinking.


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11 Apr 2009, 1:03 am

Although I pretty much accept the public version of 9/11 (I lived in Manhattan at the time) I can understand the motivation to dig beneath the presented reality since it was used as a prime tool by the Bush Administration to advance its policies and all its auxiliary attempts to subvert civil liberties and substantiate utterly fabricated claims to promote the frightful fiascoes in the Middle East that is doing terrible damage to the nation. It was so useful and convenient that it remains a puzzle.



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11 Apr 2009, 1:06 am

WP is sort of the wrong venue for crackpot conspiracy theory's, alot of
us are very skeptical of anything with no concrete or verifiable proof.



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11 Apr 2009, 1:17 am

makuranososhi wrote:
AG - I also made clear that was my own personal definition... it will vary between others, and again, it was providing informally as a topic of conversation and personal perspective, not site criteria. One can argue that specific behaviors are indicative of a pattern of behavior, even if they are not constrained to being within a single individual, but are more universal patterns. It is not my intention to get involved here beyond clarifying what was meant when we were talking in the other thread cited. If you want to analyze that subject, then creating a topic to do so would be appropriate; continuing to take over this one is not, to my way of thinking.

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Well, the thing is that I appealed to 3 sources, so it was not as if I was just taking your comment at face value. In any case, if a mod's interpretation of the rules cannot be trusted, then what could? If your comment is valid, then I can use it to provide perspective from a person of some expertise, rather than just appealing to a non-mod, who might be considered as having less weight because they are not a mod.

Not only that, but your comment of "even if they are not constrained to being within a single individual, but are more universal patterns" seems to go against the plain meaning of
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If someone does something, even if it seems blatant at first, I have to give them the benefit of the doubt. But I can give some examples - posting the same thread in every forum; rampant cursing, vulgarities and insult to a specific person or group - especially in locations that by design will cause problems; posting repeated inflammatory posts designed to provoke responses without any further involvement in the thread save observation... and the list goes on.
So, I don't think that you actually can legitimately make the argument you put forward as being possible just by examining your posts, as by pattern, you seem to clearly mean a poster who repeatedly does something wrong. (Edit: I could just be misreading you but I think I am reasonably good at thoughtful interpretations)

In any case, it is not my intention here to get into that discussion with you either, if you want to continue it, I don't think the old thread I created is too dead to accommodate this. So, if you have an additional remark, I won't mind responding to you there. Ok? :)



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11 Apr 2009, 2:23 am

silentbob15 wrote:
WP is sort of the wrong venue for crackpot conspiracy theory's, alot of
us are very skeptical of anything with no concrete or verifiable proof.



Exactly!

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11 Apr 2009, 4:11 am

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This may very well be my last post here on this site.
I get nothing but disturbing and demeaning comments from 95% of the members here.
It's nothing more than another troll society for me.
Hey, if you don't like what I research then don't flame it.
I just wanted to talk about my experiences at first to see if anyone else has any similarities.
Well I was wrong. none at all. I just get called delusional and delirious.
So I want to talk about those 600+ areas across the US that FEMA has placed millions of plastic containers in case of a biological attack.
I gather summaries from various sites and place comments from myself beneath each one.
What do I get!? I GET MY POST DEMOLISHED THAT'S WHAT!
ALL OF IT! PFFT! FORGET YOU IGNORANT JERKS!
So I have an open mind and I see that the 9/11 attacks don't add up.
I submit a video showing all of the official records (there isn't any unofficial records. wonder why :roll:) and it even had trajectories, lines, angles for the simpletons who need to have things pointed out to them. Flame. Nothing but flame.
Every time I post something I just feel worse and worse. You know what.
I think I would rather leave this ignorant place and stick with my friends at Xfire.
I see how people tend to discriminate NT's here. Stop calling them that. They are humans nonetheless.
My NT friends on Xfire have a general overall intelligence much higher than the crap I get here.
Why because instead of being closed minded and ignorant, they are open minded and think critically.
What is your beef against reiki users anyway!? WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY REIKI!
I DONT FORCE ANYTHING UNTO ANYONE! What next!? I say that I'm gnosis and then your going to freak out against that too!?
So what if I practice telepathy, telekinesis, and I meditate. It works for me! Do I need to prove that it works for me!? NO I DON'T BECAUSE IT WORKS! IM SORRY YOU PEOPLE ARE TOO IGNORANT TO STEP OT OF YOUR COMFORTABLE LITTLE SHELLS!
AND IF THE MOD WANTS TO WIPE OUT THIS THREAD THEN FINE!
YOU ALREADY WIPED EVERYTHING ELSE OUT! YOU MIGHT AS WELL WIPE MY ENTIRE EXISTENCE FROM THIS SITE OUT!
AND WILL YOU IDIOTS STOP CALLING ME A SCHIZOPHRENIAC! I HAVE A PROFESSIONAL ASPERGER'S DIAGNOSIS AND I AM NOT A SCHIZ!
WILL YOU IGNORANT PEOPLE STEP OUT OF YOUR LITTLE SHELLS! PFFT YOU ALL FEEL SAFE FLAMING ME FROM BEHIND YOUR LITTLE COMPUTER!
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11 Apr 2009, 7:30 am

He seems to be at a loss for words at the moment.

Makuranososhi informed him, on page 1 of this thread, that if he toned down his attacks others might too; and Kxmode explained it in more detail. He did not respond to Rime pointing out that what he was doing is not the reason he recommended this site to him or GreatCeleryStalk agreeing that this would be a good place to learn about his autism.

He might have left, or he might be thinking about what he has read here. I am hoping for the latter.


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11 Apr 2009, 8:09 am

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11 Apr 2009, 8:23 am

Concenik wrote:
silentbob15 wrote:
WP is sort of the wrong venue for crackpot conspiracy theory's, alot of
us are very skeptical of anything with no concrete or verifiable proof.


:rolleyes:

is that why you decided to troll my thread in 'news and current events' with tinfoilhat pictures sans serious comment? There's a big difference between being a serious skeptic and being simply closed minded.

MMSTICK, stick around, please



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11 Apr 2009, 8:50 am

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You cannot blame people for being difficult to convince. If there is reality behind your claims it will probably appear eventually. Look how many refuse to recognize evolution or global warming. If I doubt your claims I will say so but perhaps you can bring forth some I will find irrefutable. There are so many conspiracy theories floating around it is worthwhile being suspicious.


The problem is that I give irrefutable stuff but yet it is still denied simply because it reeks of the term "conspiracy."


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11 Apr 2009, 8:57 am

NobelCynic wrote:
He seems to be at a loss for words at the moment.

Makuranososhi informed him, on page 1 of this thread, that if he toned down his attacks others might too; and Kxmode explained it in more detail. He did not respond to Rime pointing out that what he was doing is not the reason he recommended this site to him or GreatCeleryStalk agreeing that this would be a good place to learn about his autism.

He might have left, or he might be thinking about what he has read here. I am hoping for the latter.


You have been mislead. This is in fact the reason why I came here. I ALWAYS lay down my foundations of my entire background. I do not like it when people make fun of me and I am sure you do not like that either. So if someone says I'm wrong I am not supposed to give more detail on why it is not wrong? You people are confusing me. I do not understand the logic at all here. If you had read what I said. I said "ret*d" because the troll made me furious. You will not EVER hear me say ANYTHING like that. I have never called anyone a ret*d before and that is an obvious fact. Also remains that I dislike cursing and other forms of vulgar. You attack me or any other persons thread and I will not stand for it. My friends are mostly around the ages of 10 and below. I like them. They are nice, they don't flame, they don't say anything meant to demean anyone. If you people dislike that I have come here and I am introducing myself to what I am, what I do, and what I have learned then too bad for you. I am staying here.


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11 Apr 2009, 9:05 am

GreatCeleryStalk wrote:
mmstick,

You have fringe views and those views aren't well supported by science or people who are generally thought to be reasonable. As someone who very nearly lost a friend, and who knows people who did, in the 9/11 attack on the WTC, it is extremely difficult for me not to tell you to piss off, but you are entitled to your own views about 9/11.

Your views are not popular; your views are not supported by evidence found at the WTC or other 9/11 sites; the evidence and professionally/scholarly analysis are heavily stacked against your interpretation of events. It's good to have an open mind, but having an open mind also means being able to acknowledge that you may be wrong and that others also have their own ideas.

It's difficult to have empathy for other people in an emotional sense, at least for me, and I imagine you might be able to say the same thing.

Maybe focus less on having telekenesis and conspiracy theories and focus more on talking about how your ASD or suspected ASD affects you. Maybe try to get to know people here without talking about 9/11 or abilities that may or may not actually exist. I mean, I really like to talk about human skeletal remains and various indicators of particular traumas, but I don't do that at the dinner table.


Popularity? Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's true.
Sorry no can do. I am not going to sit on my butt and complain about Aspergers.
Yet again another thing. If it does not actually exist then how come I can use it?
The logic here seems very flawed. I am an empath. Which is when while not even looking or seeing the person I can feel their emotions and thoughts.
The thing is that my entire family has connections to psychic related abilities and my father is big on conspiracies. I was raised up around this stuff.
I want to fight for the truth and I will not accept the lies.
As I also said earlier in EVERY post.

"I do not force anyone to believe what I post but leave your negative comments out.
I will not accept any kind of negativity on any of my threads. No cursing or vulgar either"

and again as I say. THESE ARE NOT 100% PROVEN BUT THEY ARE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT!
The fact remains that everything is possible.


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11 Apr 2009, 9:06 am

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also, 9-11 is a sore spot for many people. It's not a fun time to remember and talk about. Those people are going to be naturally aggressive to anyone who puts them in a position to think of those events. Its painful. Much in the same way people don't like to reminisce about those social blunders they make, but on a bigger scale ( people died after all).


Your right. People died after all. This is why I am furious at them.


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11 Apr 2009, 9:07 am

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Hmmmm, you are new here, and quite a few posts in only a short time.

I've been off line for a while and haven't caught up with what all the fuss is about.

I don't have a problem with people disagreeing with me ... everyone is entitled to their own opinions and beliefs ... and I never rubbish another's opinions and experiences.

In my time here I have not encountered the type of aggro you mention in your OP, but I have received a lot of support.

None the less, you are free to make your own decision.


The problem is that they rubbish my opinions and experiences


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11 Apr 2009, 9:08 am

makuranososhi wrote:
That you have an open mind is good; to insist that others share your beliefs and views is somewhat foolish, as you cannot control the actions of others. To attack those who you criticize is not likely to encourage them to listen to what you have to say or being receptive. I'm sorry to see you leave for such reasons, but regardless your decision I hope that you are happier with it.


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I have not asked for anyone to share my beliefs or views.
I merely stated that if you have "similar" experiences to please comment.


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11 Apr 2009, 9:11 am

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mmstick wrote:
I get nothing but disturbing and demeaning comments from 95% of the members here.


Would you like to know why? Let me show you, and highlight the words...

1. It's nothing more than another troll society for me.
2. ALL OF IT! PFFT! FORGET YOU IGNORANT JERKS!
3. even had trajectories, lines, angles for the simpletons who need to have things pointed out to them. Flame. Nothing but flame.
4. I think I would rather leave this ignorant place and stick with my friends at Xfire.
5. My NT friends on Xfire have a general overall intelligence much higher than the crap I get here.
6. Why because instead of being closed minded and ignorant
7. IM SORRY YOU PEOPLE ARE TOO IGNORANT
8. AND WILL YOU IDIOTS STOP CALLING ME A SCHIZOPHRENIAC!
9. WILL YOU IGNORANT PEOPLE STEP OUT OF YOUR LITTLE SHELLS!

Do you know why you write like you do? Because you're a teen. Most teens are like you. They think they know the world and EVERYTHING. From experience I can tell you I thought the same way but in looking back I really knew nothing. Also it's not the information it's the way in which you present your information.

So do you get it now?


I already pointed out the fact that during the time I was really sad. This is not how I present my information. This is how I present my information and being bombed and continuously bombed from beginning to over 100 posts later.


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