Why isn't "Islam Day" September 11th?

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Why you bother to bring it up at all, or what you're trying to say with it.

Why? September 11th is the day Americans most associate with Islam, and for good reason -- it's a very memorable day!
So, if America is going to make a holiday about Islam, it should be September 11th. That's the day Islam really hit us where we live.

Well, if you've never heard a true news report before, it can be a shock.

Plus its oral traditions. The Hadith in Islam is not a part of the written Q'ran. It was compiled after the Prophet (pus and blisters upon him) died.

ruveyn

The premise of this thread makes perfect sense. If you don't think so, rebut it. (Unless you can't think of a way to do that.)

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Well, that's a rather lazy reply. At least drop in a random link or something.

Hey Johnny, learn to READ. "Islam Day" is an AMERICAN holiday, not a Muslim one. Therefore, the date picked should be a uniquely American one. Sept 11th springs to your mind first when you think of Islam's relationship to America, and you know it! You're just afraid to admit that because it's politically incorrect.

That's true. I was just differentiating between a religion's sacred teachings and the things followers may do on their own.

I have to remember the pus and blisters upon him. I don't see Christianity as much better than Islam. I did get death threats from Moslems online for some of the things I said.

Well animals don't have a supermarket to go and buy the stuff already killed. Fox hunting is very brutal, as is a lot of stuff us humans do.
What caused 9/11? Religion. What causes all the trouble in the middle east? religion. What causes a lot of trouble in Ireland? religion. I'm not saying some religions don't have a good guidline to follow. If you have been bought up to follow it, or need to use it cause you have trouble setting boundaries for yourself, thats fine. But christianity is hardly peaceful in places like Texas where they kill people for being gay. And Bush saying god told him to go to war, if he did, God made a terrible and clearly wrong choice, or Bush is mentally unstable.
Just cause you believe in a greater being doesn't mean that people who don't, are insane. In reality, there is no god. And I think going by some of the things you've written on this thread, it may be you who has their head in the sand. And it could be you who is ignorant for not being open to the idea, that no-one really knows how the hell we got here. I believe there is other life out there, so if we do ever find them, it'll be interesting to see what they're take on it is, only if they have the exact same story, then we would know there is a god.
And no, i'd say someone who you can trust, and that will go out of their way just to help you, and not just because they think it'll help them get to heaven.

While it's true that religion is a great excuse for a fun massacre in the park, I'm not sure that a religion-free society is necessarily, peaceful. Would a world of atheists be peaceful? I'm sure they'd find something to fight about.

This thread makes as much sense as saying hicks should celebrate April 19 the day of the Oklahoma City bombing

Complete base level association.

McVeigh was a Christian, too.

Yeah, you're probably right man, but still, at least they might be fighting over something that actually exists.

Wars really breakout over geopolitics, resource strains, and a lot of tensions that I think really were just iced over by religion or abolitionism at the times when they occured.

As for a future atheist society fighting over something - I'd think eugenics would be an inherent struggle; ie whether or not to sterilize the infirmed, deciding who's to say who is infirmed, what the boundaries are, etc. etc.. Then again it may be true that people would only find enough conviction to argue about it rather than taking it to their own life or death.

I read quite well, thanks. Try reading the Quran yourself to actually get a real idea:

"And do not let ill-will towards any folk incite you so that you swerve from dealing justly. Be just; that is nearest to heedfulness"
Quran 5:8

"Islam's relationship to America"?

That'd be the same as pronouncing Sept. 7th as "Jap Day" because, of course, we ALL know what - rather, who - first springs to our minds when we think of that day.

From what I've read of your posts, apparently you suffer from lack of religious diversity among your friends.

Besides, after all, isn't the MAJOR RELIGION among those Saudi Kings that Bush held hands with and pleaded with to lower oil prices ISLAM?
What about the leader of Afghanistan that we propped up?
You know, the guy who was a foreign ambassador for Halliburton before Bush gave him his own country?
And what was the chief religion of many of the countries our private military contractors sold weapons, helicopters, planes, etc.?

Oh yeah, Islam is SO destroying America - by buying foreign goods, trading oil, and some Muslims just trying to live in friggin' peace here in the states without some right-wing thug on a religious crusade trying to deport - or worse - kill them.


Stop inciting arguments over bloated, screeching FOX News reports. Jesus would be ashamed.