ZIMMERMAN VERDICT IS IN - NOT GUILTY

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I really doubt most of the public actually holds anything against him. It's a comparatively small number that have their panties in a wad and are screaming for blood. Even they will cool off with time or whenever another BS cause comes along for them to pour their hearts into and shake their fists at.

I think the passion for guns come from the hunting instinct, not the sexual one. Guns are like modern sling-shots - the idea is the same. The shooter is able to affect something at a distance that he/she wouldn't otherwise be able to reach. This gives a distinct advantage over adversaries and prey.
Although, I've never shot a gun, so I don't know for sure.

With me the gun interest is one of those Asperger's obsessions that I've had since I can remember.
I couldn't even change it if I wanted to.

Ditto, though my interest is weapons generally and guns specifically; I blame a combination of Goldeneye on the N64 (first video game I ever saw with real guns, dynamic damage, scopes and silencers, etc) and being a paintball player too cheap to buy a high end gun and determined to build my own for sparking the specific interest.

At least Ann isn't claiming to know our motivations better than we do, unlike some other people here.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/01/j ... t-in-lung/
^this is the initial story. Didn't jibe w/ the neighbor's 911 calls, so the story changed later; in addition, one cannot simultaneously be smothered and screaming audibly for help.
Did Martin come up from behind him, or jump out of the bushes? Pretty important difference, and one would think a memorable difference.
Did Martin give Z a B-grade movie script of dialog, or just jump him?
Did Martin run away (as on the dispatch recording) or 'circle the car' and 'skip' away? Did Z "pursue" Martin, or not? All of these things have changed from one version to another to another.


Uh, no. You're the one who set up the standards for when lethal force was justified; I just pointed out that your standards were illogical as stated.


So it was initially concealed, and then it became visible. Because TM had to see it at some point, because otherwise he couldn't go for it.


Repeating your assertion does not make it any more universally true. It depends on how scared you are, how many options you think you have, and how you handle conflicts. Some people try to talk themselves out of anything; others couldn't talk themselves out of a cardboard box.


Unless you're trying to hide from the creepy-ass cracker with a gun who's been following you.

Could he have been farther away? Sure. But he didn't necessarily know where Zimmerman was at any given moment, and he might have thought that he was more likely to be caught if he headed straight home at a sprint.

I can see myself reacting exactly the same way that Martin did, if I had been followed as a teenager by a strange man in the middle of the night.


'scuse, are you suggesting that Z shot Martin by *accident*?


You have a funny definition of 'confrontation.'
Z's version of 'What the f**k's your problem, homie?' is a confrontation. 'Why are you following me,' is not.

I'm not saying anything about who started it with that statement; I'm saying whose story can be told, and whose cannot.

I don't even want to try to estimate how much time, not to mention money, I've spent and what I've voluntarily sacrificed for this obsession.
Even if it weren't an Aspie thing for me I'm about 99.999% sure I'd still have a gun or two or three using the same rationale I use for having a fire extinguisher or wearing my seatbelt.


I agree.....

I'm not saying anything about who started it with that statement; I'm saying whose story can be told, and whose cannot.[/quote]

Z claimed it was self defense. He had the bleeding skill and the beat up face to give credibility to his claim and a witness saw T on top. The Jury believed Z. The jury went with the evidences as presented in court and that is how verdicts are supposed to be arrived at.

ruveyn

To me a gun is a tool and I would have the ones I need,just like my garden tools.A basic.22 rifle, hand gun,shot - gun,and if I was into hunting I would have a 30/30.My son is an avid collector and some folks would drool over his collection.My ex had some old octagon barreled guns but sold them,I think that was stupid.I do have a thing for antiques.I would have kept those.I have an old bayonet cover from the Spanish-American war,I like old stuff like that.I get the desire to collect things that are fascinating.For my son it is guns and arrowheads,I collect plants,and old things,books,stuff that is boring,but none of those hideous Hummel figurines.I'd use those for target practice.
But enlighten me on this,when my ex was in the service he said they sang a song that went"This is your rifle,this is your gun,this ones for killing,this ones for fun."That does seem rather ,umm,phallic He also told me the song about these women wearing different colors and what they did for a living but I won't repeat any of that.I thought it was funny but I think a few girls might get really pissed by it.

That chant was meant to break the habbit of recruits calling a rifle a gun, meaning that gun is too ambiguous of a term.

I had no idea of that,makes sense.By chanting something over and over it would stick in someone's head.

Not guilty doesnt mean they believed him. One juror has already said that he got away with murder. She doesnt believe him but felt the charges couldnt be proven with the given evidence.

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Keep in mind too that most of the public is completely ignorant when it comes to guns and gun terminology, whether it's calling magazines clips, confusing automatic and semi-automatic fire, referring to a barrel shroud as "the shoulder thing that goes up", etc. It's a pet peeve for us civilians, but in the military a confusion in terms could be disastrous.

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Seriously, dude, you're seeing phalus everywhere. I can understand why are you so involved in defending the black guy

^^^^*I'm a bored middle aged house wife that's been single for eight years,what do you expect?

The above quote wasn't me; it was someone I was quoting in-text.

Last answer I was expecting. Point scored