Do you believe in God?

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Do you believe God exists?

1) God is a being, that one can have a personal relationship. A person God.	30%	[ 55 ]
2) God is an impersonal force that guides reality as it is. He decrees our laws of physics, but does not intervene to break them.	12%	[ 22 ]
3) God does not exist. Reality can be explained by scientific inquiry and the scientific method in by itself.	33%	[ 61 ]
4) I am not sure. There is the possibility that God does exist, or does not. We must follow the preponderance of evidence when drawing our conclusion.	25%	[ 47 ]

Total votes : 185

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26 Mar 2016, 6:44 pm

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quote="Deltaville"...

Not true, more than half of my physics faculty know that the multiverse theorem is a load of CRAP. The only ones who have any real faith in the multiverse are string theory nutjobs and scifi fanboys./quote

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They know it? How do they know? It breaks no known physical laws. Can you quote a paper on the subject?

As long as we are using arguments from authority, here is a list of advocates of the multiverse theory... from wikipedia:

Stephen Hawking,[15] Brian Greene,[16][17] Max Tegmark,[18] Alan Guth,[19] Andrei Linde,[20] Michio Kaku,[21] David Deutsch,[22] Leonard Susskind,[23] Alexander Vilenkin,[24] Yasunori Nomura,[25] Raj Pathria,[26] Laura Mersini-Houghton,[27][28] Neil deGrasse Tyson,[29] and Sean Carroll.[30]

Out of all these people you cited, I would only consider Brian Greene to have any real credible value. As I have mentioned before, the multiverse comes with tremendous baggage and topological issues that simply cannot be reconciled within any framework of space time geometry.

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26 Mar 2016, 8:54 pm

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One thing I might add to this thread since it's still going...

There is one boiler-plate sense in which gods and goddesses absolutely do exist. When you can string together a set of virtues or attributes within a certain cluster of relationship, establish something of a hypothetical paragon point where those virtues or attributes are taken to their highest level of pure abstraction, you've essentially discovered a god or goddess. That god or goddess becomes a fulcrum from which you can leverage your own traits - whether it be levels of motivation, skill sets that you wish to develop, or perhaps fuzzier areas of human nature that you simply wish to explore further and get clarity on because having access to enough data in your outer life is not feasible.

To envision this god or goddess is to give birth within yourself to a coaching module in your brain. To work with them is to leverage a certain oddity about how our minds operate - that you can tell yourself things as yourself and only get so far, put a separate face and voice of authority on those words to mimic external social proof and your mind will react quite candidly as if its so. The power of that coaching and educational module is enhanced with repetitive prayer (rosaries and the like), novel paths are indeed opened up in your motivational structure that weren't there before, and particularly if you set that deity to work with you on certain problems in your existence you'll easily find yourself, with enough dedication, pouring through minutia that would have been unavailable to you without long periods of study that you quite likely would not have been able to gin up the motivation for aside from the aid given by your philosophic helper.

We've really lost touch with their value as logical operators in a big way, or at least our culture in the mainstream sense has. People still do figure this one out if their lives are in a bad enough bind that they need a seemingly superhuman level of resource to dig their way out if (whether they dug their own hole or not). For whatever reason our own minds are quite hesitant to cough up the keys to the subconscious and working with subconscious symbolism and god-making, god-naming, god-working is effectively that first and foremost. I'm not making any claim that some very odd and inexplicable things can't start happening in your external world in ways you simply didn't touch, just that if such synchronicities are real at all (generally they can never be corroborated past one's own subjective reasoning) they usually come about after and are a byproduct of this process.

Hi techstepgeneration, I am curious on what option you picked.

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26 Mar 2016, 9:13 pm

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26 Mar 2016, 10:14 pm

Deltaville wrote:

Hi techstepgeneration, I am curious on what option you picked.

Nothing! I didn't answer the poll.

I'd be stretched across 2) and 4) probably if I had.

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26 Mar 2016, 10:53 pm

On a side note though I do think Babalon (the scarlet goddess) is out making things happen these days and will be for quite a while. Just how far she'll go at initiating the world over her knee I'm not sure.

Richard Tarnas (link below) unfortunately is really tough to listen to, you'd have to be multitasking while you listen to get through this (unless you smoke - I don't), but he seems to be suggesting a 2nd axial period is on its way in our lifetimes to complement the 6th mass extinction and he's suggesting that it's the Anima Mundi that'll be giving us a right of passage or coming of age test that we've been abstaining from for thousands of years (which sounds to me a bit like we're headed for Mad Max or perhaps something even less comfortable). To that extent, despite his going Noam Chomsky on the issue of terror, I think he might have gotten the archetypal message of our times right on target. Esoterically the Anima Mundi, Sophia, and Babalon are all tightly correlated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Ji907EXvc

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27 Mar 2016, 8:45 am

It is good for me to wake up saying good morning God, instead of
Good god it's morning.

When I am all wrapped up in me I make a small package. My wife says it's being over dressed.

Some of the best blues are Psalms.

One of the best jams I attended was at a lecture Jews and a The Blues.

Readers digest version
Old Testament
They wanted to kill us
They didn't.
New Testament.

Spoiler alert

Read it - much better than the movie.

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27 Mar 2016, 8:59 am

Merry Easter to All!! !

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27 Mar 2016, 9:07 am

Love and prayers to you Noah and others posting and - or reading here.

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27 Mar 2016, 9:22 am

drlaugh wrote:

Some of the best blues are Psalms.

Some of the best and earliest gangsta rap is also Psalms.

*Boom*...Uh.... Lord pleeassseee murda mah enemieees.....burn em at a thousand degreeeees....

Psalms 8, 23, and 91 are some of my favorites. Psalm 139 is a bit of a let down in that it starts real transcendental, you think it'll finish out like that, and then for whatever reason the Psalmist decided that tacking on a good stretch of gangsta rap would be the best way to finish it.

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27 Mar 2016, 9:29 am

And yet there is absolutely no evidence of any god or gods...

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27 Mar 2016, 9:36 am

Coming soon
An Easter Wrap

It was folded ...
Perhaps another example
That it is finished. ...

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27 Mar 2016, 10:27 pm

The concept of such a being that contradicts all logic and reason let alone lacking evidence with the exception of a book of stories composing of a religion comprised of stories borrowed from surrounding religions. God says let there be light before the stars? Self contradiction at the beginning of the book already. If God wanted people to obey his commands than why did he give humans free will? That is not something an all knowing being would do if he was all knowing and knowing what was going to happen in the future.

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27 Mar 2016, 10:37 pm

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Amen to that...

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28 Mar 2016, 6:07 am

2525 reminds me of a modern version of George Carlin

Can God make a rock so big even He can't lift it?

This wrong planet reminds me of other chat rooms around the inter net. Why am I surprised? :?:

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28 Mar 2016, 7:27 am

I do have to say this DarkMatter2525 guys videos are pretty good. Many of the "critiques'/commentaries are legitimate food for thought, while others are not. Over-all I think its good entertainment. However, the person who posted the video wrote a comment that is not very substantial. There was light before stars. :wink: If humans are to have free will then they have to be allowed to make choices... including the choice to reject God. Also... one theory on the nature of God's foreknowledge and its relationship to free will involves God knowing the truth value of all propositions. Therefore, God knows what you will freely choose to do given a the state of affairs one finds his/her self in, but that does not mean you are determined to do it.

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28 Mar 2016, 7:39 am

Also... could you elaborate on Christianity being a religion comprised of stories borrowed from other nearby religions?

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