cyberdad wrote:
Ok so from Haidt's perspective
truth university (TU) - seeking knowledge using evidence based approaches
social justice university (SJU) - seeking knowledge using lived experience
According to Haidt and Kaufman SJWs want to elevate the SJU over the TU
Kaufman claims specific disciplines where SJU > TU
For example race studies, cultural studies, indigenous studies, LGBTQI and gender studies.
The underlying principle is that scientific and social disciplines are taught from a western-European cultural bias and secondly that studies that examine (for example) indigenous culture should be driven by lived experience from indigenous people as opposed to non-indigenous people projecting their views as more important than lived experience.
Where kaufman's/Haidt's arguments fall over is the assumption that lived experience in these bespoke areas of research i) apply to STEM ii) that lived experience automatically trumps evidence based research.
What the objection here seems to be is i) minority groups encroaching into disciplines involving their own people and ii) the undermining of evidence based approaches
Both of these arguments are not supported by evidence either of them have provided? It seems they are talking about tripping some type of switch where entertaining SJU will cause science to regress which they then use to unfairly misattribute to label the political left as regressive (I mean why bring politics into this?).
I don't find their arguments intellectually valid or (ironically) evidence based.
I think during late 2016 things were looking bad enough that it was a credible concern. The one thing Haidt did hit in that lecture, with fields not keeping their containment, was business flooding sciences and other professions whose 'telos' was public service and the invasion of that telos by business ($$) was malpractice. I sort of thing that's more the root problem that woke was an indirect reaction to.
A lot of things have changed in the past few years as well, including a lot of pushback against the anti-science side of the movement and I think it's been starting to course-correct accordingly (or at least I've been hearing things piled into 'whiteness' as much that seem to better qualify as adult sophistication). That concern, as well as the chilling of speech, was a large part of where the Harpers letter was coming from and it's a big part of what was bothering the left and center left about the movement.
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