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13 Mar 2021, 7:31 pm

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But why is he giving her a movie deal then, or what's in it for him? It's not like giving her the deal is going to help battle democrats any more effectively, is it?


Shapiro is trying to be a "great white saviour" that's why. The film is funded by a conservative right wing website called the "Daily Wire" owned by Shapiro. He's making a point to left wingers whom both Carano and Shapiro regularly mock on social media.


I don't know much about him, but I do know there are many antisemitic people on the left of politics, both here in Australia and over in the UK.
Why not also America?
Why wouldn't he lean to the conservative side of politics?
I am out of my depth here. 8O


Oh but I didn't say anything about any politically left people being antisemitic, did I?


*I* said it.
I said it to make my point that I am not surprised he might have right-leaning sympathies. 8)


What right leaning sympathies would those be?



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13 Mar 2021, 7:35 pm

ironpony wrote:
Pepe wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Pepe wrote:
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ironpony wrote:
But why is he giving her a movie deal then, or what's in it for him? It's not like giving her the deal is going to help battle democrats any more effectively, is it?


Shapiro is trying to be a "great white saviour" that's why. The film is funded by a conservative right wing website called the "Daily Wire" owned by Shapiro. He's making a point to left wingers whom both Carano and Shapiro regularly mock on social media.


I don't know much about him, but I do know there are many antisemitic people on the left of politics, both here in Australia and over in the UK.
Why not also America?
Why wouldn't he lean to the conservative side of politics?
I am out of my depth here. 8O


Oh but I didn't say anything about any politically left people being antisemitic, did I?


*I* said it.
I said it to make my point that I am not surprised he might have right-leaning sympathies. 8)


What right leaning sympathies would those be?


Hiring Carano might be an indication. 8)



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13 Mar 2021, 7:46 pm

Oh I see, sorry, I keep getting right and left mixed up. But I didn't think that giving Carano her own movie, as nothing more than spite to the left, was enough motivation for Shapiro to spend money on a movie. There must be other motives for him to make a movie, other than that one thing I thought.



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13 Mar 2021, 8:01 pm

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Oh I see, sorry, I keep getting right and left mixed up. But I didn't think that giving Carano her own movie, as nothing more than spite to the left, was enough motivation for Shapiro to spend money on a movie. There must be other motives for him to make a movie, other than that one thing I thought.


It is interesting what his ulterior motives are. I don't recall anyone else rescuing a sacked actor to fund a movie that revolves around the aforementioned actor. My guess it's a very expensive publicity stunt.



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13 Mar 2021, 8:16 pm

And I kind of like Shapiro's decision in the sense that I am into filmmaking myself and have always been trying to break in, so I can't fault him for wanting to produce a movie. It's just for him to do it under these peculiar circumstances, when he didn't seem to show interest in movie producing before, I wonder what is this movie going to be and will it be any good, depending on where his heart is in it.



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14 Mar 2021, 12:09 am

ironpony wrote:
Oh I see, sorry, I keep getting right and left mixed up. But I didn't think that giving Carano her own movie, as nothing more than spite to the left, was enough motivation for Shapiro to spend money on a movie. There must be other motives for him to make a movie, other than that one thing I thought.


You have lost me. :scratch:
"Doesn't matter", like Con, the Grocer would say. 8)



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14 Mar 2021, 12:46 am

Pepe wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Oh I see, sorry, I keep getting right and left mixed up. But I didn't think that giving Carano her own movie, as nothing more than spite to the left, was enough motivation for Shapiro to spend money on a movie. There must be other motives for him to make a movie, other than that one thing I thought.


You have lost me. :scratch:
"Doesn't matter", like Con, the Grocer would say. 8)


Only you and I know who Con is Pepe....



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14 Mar 2021, 12:47 am

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And I kind of like Shapiro's decision in the sense that I am into filmmaking myself and have always been trying to break in, so I can't fault him for wanting to produce a movie. It's just for him to do it under these peculiar circumstances, when he didn't seem to show interest in movie producing before, I wonder what is this movie going to be and will it be any good, depending on where his heart is in it.


Cool! that's why you ask lots of questions. You would make a good documentary maker.



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14 Mar 2021, 1:06 am

cyberdad wrote:
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Oh I see, sorry, I keep getting right and left mixed up. But I didn't think that giving Carano her own movie, as nothing more than spite to the left, was enough motivation for Shapiro to spend money on a movie. There must be other motives for him to make a movie, other than that one thing I thought.


You have lost me. :scratch:
"Doesn't matter", like Con, the Grocer would say. 8)


Only you and I know who Con is Pepe....


And you think I am not aware that it was esoteric, why? :scratch:



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14 Mar 2021, 1:34 am

Pepe wrote:
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ironpony wrote:
Oh I see, sorry, I keep getting right and left mixed up. But I didn't think that giving Carano her own movie, as nothing more than spite to the left, was enough motivation for Shapiro to spend money on a movie. There must be other motives for him to make a movie, other than that one thing I thought.


You have lost me. :scratch:
"Doesn't matter", like Con, the Grocer would say. 8)


Only you and I know who Con is Pepe....


And you think I am not aware that it was esoteric, why? :scratch:


I knew a lady called Soula



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14 Mar 2021, 2:17 am

cyberdad wrote:
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ironpony wrote:
Oh I see, sorry, I keep getting right and left mixed up. But I didn't think that giving Carano her own movie, as nothing more than spite to the left, was enough motivation for Shapiro to spend money on a movie. There must be other motives for him to make a movie, other than that one thing I thought.


You have lost me. :scratch:
"Doesn't matter", like Con, the Grocer would say. 8)


Only you and I know who Con is Pepe....


Quite possibly...I remember a "Con the Fruiterer", though (Never watched the show, but hard not to know about him) :P



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14 Mar 2021, 2:50 am

Brictoria wrote:
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Pepe wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Oh I see, sorry, I keep getting right and left mixed up. But I didn't think that giving Carano her own movie, as nothing more than spite to the left, was enough motivation for Shapiro to spend money on a movie. There must be other motives for him to make a movie, other than that one thing I thought.


You have lost me. :scratch:
"Doesn't matter", like Con, the Grocer would say. 8)


Only you and I know who Con is Pepe....


Quite possibly...I remember a "Con the Fruiterer", though (Never watched the show, but hard not to know about him) :P
"Beautiful. Doesn't matter". :mrgreen:



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14 Mar 2021, 5:07 am

Interesting to see "Con the fruiterer" has gone the way of the dinosaur (or is it dodo?), along with other embarrassing "Australiana" like Hey hey it's Saturday" and the "Paul Hogan Show" (*cringe*)



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15 Mar 2021, 9:09 pm

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RIP Pepe. You just got cancelled (of course)

George Orwell's prophecy is closer than ever.


A tad overdramatic don't you think?

On a seperate note It always amuses me how the same people who laud the robustness of western civilisation are so frightened of the downfall of civilisation due to not being able to watch some crap cartoon :lol:


Free speech is not about being able to watch some "crap cartoon". Free speech is the mechanism by which a free society fixes problems. If you cannot openly discuss controversial subjects out of fear of being cancelled, no problems can be brought up let alone solutions found. When a subject is politically incorrect, the problems grow and fester until they blow up as unresolvable crisis like the grooming gang problem in many UK communities or the issue of sexually confused children. Everyone is going to have their own take and prejudices, but opinions are not problematic and actual effecatious solutions can be argued in good faith without demonizing the other side.

No, that isn't being overly dramatic.



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16 Mar 2021, 12:43 am

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When a subject is politically incorrect, the problems grow and fester until they blow up as unresolvable crisis like the grooming gang problem in many UK communities or the issue of sexually confused children. Everyone is going to have their own take and prejudices, but opinions are not problematic and actual effecatious solutions can be argued in good faith without demonizing the other side.


I do hope you are not referring to racist and transphobic people being allowed express their prejudices?
Gang violence can be dealt with using culturally sensitive policies rather than blaming an entire ethnic group and sexually confused children should be nurtured and cared for not vilified. It's not rocket science.

You don't need a sledgehammer to deal with vulnerable people who pose some type of existential threat to people paranoid about minorities who bemoan freedom of speech but enthusiastically cancel other people's rights.



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16 Mar 2021, 12:54 am

cyberdad wrote:
Interesting to see "Con the fruiterer" has gone the way of the dinosaur (or is it dodo?), along with other embarrassing "Australiana" like Hey hey it's Saturday" and the "Paul Hogan Show" (*cringe*)


I didn't take it seriously and found Australian humour enjoyable.
The Aussie larrikin era was a kak. :mrgreen:
I am not a virtue-signaller, though. 8)