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People weren't 'created' for anything. Although I guess you'll never accept evolution so I might as well not bother.
Hey, pointless arguments never stopped you before.
offtopic smartbutt answers have never kept you from thinking you're still right and know everything and are way above everything
For the record (or rather, to reset the record that Sedaka keeps skewing), I 1) don't know anything close to everything, and I 2) don't think I'm above everything, nor do I have any idea where you got these two ideas.
What if the afterlife turns out to be completely different from what is described in the Bible?
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Where is this topic going?
I was just going to say, this thread is a REALLY boring debate so far, since I'm the only one in all its 33 pages to take the "against" side.
it's boring cause you cant deduce the value in the questions being asked of you... or you're above them and then ignore them...as you have stated
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People weren't 'created' for anything. Although I guess you'll never accept evolution so I might as well not bother.
Hey, pointless arguments never stopped you before.
offtopic smartass answers have never kept you from thinking you're still right and know everything and are way above everything
For the record (or rather, to reset the record that Sedaka keeps skewing), I 1) don't know anything close to everything, and I 2) don't think I'm above everything, nor do I have any idea where you got these two ideas.
you exude these things... and yes you have stated you blatantly ignore questions and such cause "you're free" of them... aka.. above them
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I deleted all your other shite, but I'll answer this one. (Or rather, re-answer it, as you have constant amnesia of most of my answers.)
"Why" God doesn't like homosexuality is His own preference, and doesn't need to be answered, because He's God. So, the "why" is logically trumped by the "what", which is that He is God and can rule the universe as He wishes.
So you just accept all his BS even though there's no logical reason why your god comes up with this bollocks in the first place?
You ASSUME there's no logical reason. But you're not the Lord of Logic (hate to break it to you). There are some things you and I just don't know, which are true nonetheless. Just because you can't understand something doesn't mean it's illogical.
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I deleted all your other shite, but I'll answer this one. (Or rather, re-answer it, as you have constant amnesia of most of my answers.)
"Why" God doesn't like homosexuality is His own preference, and doesn't need to be answered, because He's God. So, the "why" is logically trumped by the "what", which is that He is God and can rule the universe as He wishes.
So you just accept all his BS even though there's no logical reason why your god comes up with this bollocks in the first place?
You ASSUME there's no logical reason. But you're not the Lord of Logic (hate to break it to you). There are some things you and I just don't know, which are true nonetheless. Just because you can't understand something doesn't mean it's illogical.
The only thing I don't understand is how the hell intelligent people manage to believe this BS in 2007.
The point is, you don't know of any logical reason, so why do you still blindly follow it?
Of course I asked why. I'm still curious, as a matter of fact, why penises can't just screw vaginas and be done with the whole debate.
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
People weren't 'created' for anything. Although I guess you'll never accept evolution so I might as well not bother.
Hey, pointless arguments never stopped you before.
offtopic smartbutt answers have never kept you from thinking you're still right and know everything and are way above everything
For the record (or rather, to reset the record that Sedaka keeps skewing), I 1) don't know anything close to everything, and I 2) don't think I'm above everything, nor do I have any idea where you got these two ideas.
What if the afterlife turns out to be completely different from what is described in the Bible?
Then I'll be f***ed. Just make sure you're not.
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
People weren't 'created' for anything. Although I guess you'll never accept evolution so I might as well not bother.
Hey, pointless arguments never stopped you before.
offtopic smartass answers have never kept you from thinking you're still right and know everything and are way above everything
For the record (or rather, to reset the record that Sedaka keeps skewing), I 1) don't know anything close to everything, and I 2) don't think I'm above everything, nor do I have any idea where you got these two ideas.
you exude these things...
Oh, I "exude" them, do I? More ironclad evidence for your positions, I see.
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
Why? I should still have the right to get married, whether I want to or not. Why can't you comprehend that? There are plenty of people who are too lazy and apathetic to bother voting in elections, but In can guarantee that if you took that right away from them, plenty would be pissed off.
You do have the right to get married, its just called something else. Perhaps for gay peoples protection, if the government had gone the whole hog and called it marriage i could guarantee you gay bashing would start again. Think about it. Its just a name anyway, i see no reason to upset most of the country because you want to rename something.
I wasn't talking about the UK. I meant anywhere that doesn't already allow it, US or elsewhere. And tbh I don't see why it can't have the same name. As far as I'm concerned, al legal marriage should be referred to as civil unions/civil partnerships. Leave marriage to the weirdos in church.
You dont live in the US. It doesnt concern you, so why are you complaining about it. It cannot have the same name because marriage is defined for a man and a women, and anyway it will offend religious types. You seem to be arguing about nothing.
I don't give a sh** if it offends the religious freaks. Screw them. Since when did we make laws based on who will or will not be offended? Just because I don't live in the US doesn't mean I shouldn't voice my opinion on it ffs. I don't live in Israel either. Should I not give a sh** about anything happening over there either? I'm not arguing about nothing. I'm arguing about people not being given equal rights. So what if I don't live in the same country as them? I'm not some c**t who doesn't care about anyone else's rights.
In the same way we dont allow consentual paedophillia in this country, because people dont like the concept. Most laws are based on pragmatism, get used to it. Like the Blasphemy act, for instance. Voicing your opinion is all fair enough, but there are ways of doing so diplomatically, and also without you going into some online rage about it. As for other peoples rights yes I care, but being able to bugger someone up the arse doesnt count very high up my list of priortities, funilly enough.
The Bible does disapprove of homosexuality quite explicitly. It's right there in Leviticus:
Leviticus 18.22: Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
(Doesn't say anything about lesbianism, curiously enough)
As are some other strictures. Let's have a look at some of them.
Leviticus 3.17: It shall be a perpetual statute for your generations throughout all your dwellings, that ye eat neither fat nor blood.
Leviticus 12.2: Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean.
Leviticus 19.19 Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.
Leviticus 19.23 And when ye shall come into the land, and shall have planted all manner of trees for food, then ye shall count the fruit thereof as uncircumcised: three years shall it be as uncircumcised unto you: it shall not be eaten of.
Leviticus 20.9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.
Leviticus 20.10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
Leviticus 20.18 And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.
Funny that the "homosexuality is bad" one got kept out of that lot. It's almost as if the Bible was being selectively read to justify prejudice.
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Of course I asked why. I'm still curious, as a matter of fact, why penises can't just screw vaginas and be done with the whole debate.
if you had proved anything... yo'd be a very rich man
it's not the nerves in the penis or clit that matter... it's the brain. and im sorry... i dont buy your little experiment
along these lines... you cold conclude that a woman would draw pleasure from being raped. do you concur?
if you did ask... then answer the why.... beyond god "saying so"
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People weren't 'created' for anything. Although I guess you'll never accept evolution so I might as well not bother.
Hey, pointless arguments never stopped you before.
offtopic smartass answers have never kept you from thinking you're still right and know everything and are way above everything
For the record (or rather, to reset the record that Sedaka keeps skewing), I 1) don't know anything close to everything, and I 2) don't think I'm above everything, nor do I have any idea where you got these two ideas.
you exude these things...
Oh, I "exude" them, do I? More ironclad evidence for your positions, I see.
i would put a poll if it werent against TOS
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Of course I asked why. I'm still curious, as a matter of fact, why penises can't just screw vaginas and be done with the whole debate.
Because they're not attracted to them. You have a prostate don't you? I'm sure you could find it pleasurable to get f****d up your ass by a man. But you're straight, so you wouldn't do it. I could have asex with a man, but I wouldn't want to. I don't find men repulsive at all, but the thought of having sex with one repulses me, just like the thought of having sex with a fat ugly woman repulses me. It's the same for everyone else.
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