Another actress canceled by Disney
Ball wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
binstein wrote:
Ball wrote:
RIP Pepe. You just got cancelled (of course)
George Orwell's prophecy is closer than ever.
A tad overdramatic don't you think?
On a seperate note It always amuses me how the same people who laud the robustness of western civilisation are so frightened of the downfall of civilisation due to not being able to watch some crap cartoon
Free speech is not about being able to watch some "crap cartoon". Free speech is the mechanism by which a free society fixes problems. If you cannot openly discuss controversial subjects out of fear of being cancelled, no problems can be brought up let alone solutions found. When a subject is politically incorrect, the problems grow and fester until they blow up as unresolvable crisis like the grooming gang problem in many UK communities or the issue of sexually confused children. Everyone is going to have their own take and prejudices, but opinions are not problematic and actual effecatious solutions can be argued in good faith without demonizing the other side.
No, that isn't being overly dramatic.
↑ THIS, quoted for truth.
cyberdad wrote:
Ball wrote:
When a subject is politically incorrect, the problems grow and fester until they blow up as unresolvable crisis like the grooming gang problem in many UK communities or the issue of sexually confused children. Everyone is going to have their own take and prejudices, but opinions are not problematic and actual effecatious solutions can be argued in good faith without demonizing the other side.
I do hope you are not referring to racist and transphobic people being allowed express their prejudices?
Gang violence can be dealt with using culturally sensitive policies rather than blaming an entire ethnic group and sexually confused children should be nurtured and cared for not vilified. It's not rocket science.
You don't need a sledgehammer to deal with vulnerable people who pose some type of existential threat to people paranoid about minorities who bemoan freedom of speech but enthusiastically cancel other people's rights.
I would like people to be able to talk about gang-stalking, without them being intimidated by the threat of them being gang-stalked themselves.
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Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Interesting to see "Con the fruiterer" has gone the way of the dinosaur (or is it dodo?), along with other embarrassing "Australiana" like Hey hey it's Saturday" and the "Paul Hogan Show" (*cringe*)
I didn't take it seriously and found Australian humour enjoyable.
The Aussie larrikin era was a kak.
I am not a virtue-signaller, though.
When I was in University in the 1980s it was considered an illicit (but fun) pastime for the "boys" to gather around for a beer and put on a tape of Rodney Rude making racist and sexist jokes. I tolerated it because it was so widespread and I couldn't do anything but even back then it made me cringe.
cyberdad wrote:
Ball wrote:
When a subject is politically incorrect, the problems grow and fester until they blow up as unresolvable crisis like the grooming gang problem in many UK communities or the issue of sexually confused children. Everyone is going to have their own take and prejudices, but opinions are not problematic and actual effecatious solutions can be argued in good faith without demonizing the other side.
I do hope you are not referring to racist and transphobic people being allowed express their prejudices?
Gang violence can be dealt with using culturally sensitive policies rather than blaming an entire ethnic group and sexually confused children should be nurtured and cared for not vilified. It's not rocket science.
You don't need a sledgehammer to deal with vulnerable people who pose some type of existential threat to people paranoid about minorities who bemoan freedom of speech but enthusiastically cancel other people's rights.
So positing that a sexually confused child is wrong is transphobic but enabling sexual confusion is nurturing? Genuine question, because this is exactly the kind of mess we get into when we aren't allowed to flesh problems out in public. Instead of being charitable of other opinions, invectives are used to stifle debate and discussion. We can't show our concern that bad decisions are being made out of political correctness so instead any problems that will result will fester and continue the end result being ruined lives in the name of compassion.
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Ball wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Ball wrote:
When a subject is politically incorrect, the problems grow and fester until they blow up as unresolvable crisis like the grooming gang problem in many UK communities or the issue of sexually confused children. Everyone is going to have their own take and prejudices, but opinions are not problematic and actual effecatious solutions can be argued in good faith without demonizing the other side.
I do hope you are not referring to racist and transphobic people being allowed express their prejudices?
Gang violence can be dealt with using culturally sensitive policies rather than blaming an entire ethnic group and sexually confused children should be nurtured and cared for not vilified. It's not rocket science.
You don't need a sledgehammer to deal with vulnerable people who pose some type of existential threat to people paranoid about minorities who bemoan freedom of speech but enthusiastically cancel other people's rights.
So positing that a sexually confused child is wrong is transphobic but enabling sexual confusion is nurturing? Genuine question, because this is exactly the kind of mess we get into when we aren't allowed to flesh problems out in public. Instead of being charitable of other opinions, invectives are used to stifle debate and discussion. We can't show our concern that bad decisions are being made out of political correctness so instead any problems that will result will fester and continue the end result being ruined lives in the name of compassion.
What if they're not 'sexually confused' and they know damn well what their gender is and that it isn't what their body is?
Ball wrote:
Genuine question, because this is exactly the kind of mess we get into when we aren't allowed to flesh problems out in public. .
Please give me one example of a genuine question pertaining to transgender rights. I haven't come across one that warrants or merits even asking.
cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Oh I see, sorry, I keep getting right and left mixed up. But I didn't think that giving Carano her own movie, as nothing more than spite to the left, was enough motivation for Shapiro to spend money on a movie. There must be other motives for him to make a movie, other than that one thing I thought.
It is interesting what his ulterior motives are. I don't recall anyone else rescuing a sacked actor to fund a movie that revolves around the aforementioned actor. My guess it's a very expensive publicity stunt.
Looks like it could be an interesting movie, actually:
Brictoria wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Oh I see, sorry, I keep getting right and left mixed up. But I didn't think that giving Carano her own movie, as nothing more than spite to the left, was enough motivation for Shapiro to spend money on a movie. There must be other motives for him to make a movie, other than that one thing I thought.
It is interesting what his ulterior motives are. I don't recall anyone else rescuing a sacked actor to fund a movie that revolves around the aforementioned actor. My guess it's a very expensive publicity stunt.
Looks like it could be an interesting movie, actually:
Looks interesting although I can't think of one female cowgirl or outlaw or law-woman who stands out in my memory. The genre is almost exclusively male so she will have a lot of expectation on her shoulders.
I personally think her physique and demeanor would suit a mercenary or female gladiator. She would have been an interesting addition to the series "Sparticus" or opposite Russell Crowe in "Gladiator".
This movie actually looks good. I would watch it. I mean I think she was a good actress in what I saw her in before, and I also think she is physically talented and very attractive as well. Sure she made a poor analogy perhaps, but I make bad analogies too, and it's human, but people treat her like she is as bad as Roman Polanski.
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ironpony wrote:
This movie actually looks good. I would watch it. I mean I think she was a good actress in what I saw her in before, and I also think she is physically talented and very attractive as well. Sure she made a poor analogy perhaps, but I make bad analogies too, and it's human, but people treat her like is as bad as Roman Polanski.
She would be 100 x more attractive if she dropped the muscles and lost a few pounds
cyberdad wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
Oh I see, sorry, I keep getting right and left mixed up. But I didn't think that giving Carano her own movie, as nothing more than spite to the left, was enough motivation for Shapiro to spend money on a movie. There must be other motives for him to make a movie, other than that one thing I thought.
It is interesting what his ulterior motives are. I don't recall anyone else rescuing a sacked actor to fund a movie that revolves around the aforementioned actor. My guess it's a very expensive publicity stunt.
Looks like it could be an interesting movie, actually:
Looks interesting although I can't think of one female cowgirl or outlaw or law-woman who stands out in my memory. The genre is almost exclusively male so she will have a lot of expectation on her shoulders.
I personally think her physique and demeanor would suit a mercenary or female gladiator. She would have been an interesting addition to the series "Sparticus" or opposite Russell Crowe in "Gladiator".
Being that she is an ex-MMA competitor, there'd be quite a few arreas where she could find a fit - If you were looking for something roman-era, and historical, how about Boudica?
There's quite a few options (Bradamante looks interesting) listed at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_warriors_in_folklore, although not all of them would neccesarily have been involved in combat, or be suitable for her to portray.
cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
This movie actually looks good. I would watch it. I mean I think she was a good actress in what I saw her in before, and I also think she is physically talented and very attractive as well. Sure she made a poor analogy perhaps, but I make bad analogies too, and it's human, but people treat her like is as bad as Roman Polanski.
She would be 100 x more attractive if she dropped the muscles and lost a few pounds
True, but she does make the unconventional muscular look look sexy though I must say.
Brictoria wrote:
Being that she is an ex-MMA competitor, there'd be quite a few arreas where she could find a fit - If you were looking for something roman-era, and historical, how about Boudica?
There's quite a few options (Bradamante looks interesting) listed at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_warriors_in_folklore, although not all of them would neccesarily have been involved in combat, or be suitable for her to portray.
There's quite a few options (Bradamante looks interesting) listed at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_warriors_in_folklore, although not all of them would neccesarily have been involved in combat, or be suitable for her to portray.
Yes she would have made a perfect Boudica. Of course the famous Queen of the Iceni had flaming red hair and was probably taller than Carano but they can do excellent things with make-up and CGI these days. Her martial arts skills would certainly put her ahead of other comparable actresses.
ironpony wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
This movie actually looks good. I would watch it. I mean I think she was a good actress in what I saw her in before, and I also think she is physically talented and very attractive as well. Sure she made a poor analogy perhaps, but I make bad analogies too, and it's human, but people treat her like is as bad as Roman Polanski.
She would be 100 x more attractive if she dropped the muscles and lost a few pounds
True, but she does make the unconventional muscular look look sexy though I must say.
Yeah...I guess. I tend to find women with bigger muscles/bodies than me a little scary
cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ironpony wrote:
This movie actually looks good. I would watch it. I mean I think she was a good actress in what I saw her in before, and I also think she is physically talented and very attractive as well. Sure she made a poor analogy perhaps, but I make bad analogies too, and it's human, but people treat her like is as bad as Roman Polanski.
She would be 100 x more attractive if she dropped the muscles and lost a few pounds
True, but she does make the unconventional muscular look look sexy though I must say.
Yeah...I guess. I tend to find women with bigger muscles/bodies than me a little scary
Do you think Gina is kind of hot, in like she is going to 'teach you a lesson' sort of way, as long as it's good and consensual of course?
