If a girl is raped and pregnant, should she keep the baby?

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25 Aug 2011, 5:04 pm

You can't have it both ways. You can't say that you are Pro Life and then tell a homeless woman to have her baby in the gutter.



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25 Aug 2011, 5:08 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
You can't have it both ways. You can't say that you are Pro Life and then tell a homeless woman to have her baby in the gutter.


Wth?!??

Hospitals are required to give medical aid in an emergency situation, a woman going into labor and giving birth falls into that category because it is a life and death situation (for the baby) and there is a health threat for the mother giving birth in unsanitary conditions (like a gutter).



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25 Aug 2011, 5:12 pm

Okay so socialized medicine is okay as long as it is an emergency?



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25 Aug 2011, 5:19 pm

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Okay so socialized medicine is okay as long as it is an emergency?



It isn't socialized medicine, it is basic common sense. Also if you didn't realize it, we already pay for people's babies being delivered in the hospital, from our insurance premiums.



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25 Aug 2011, 5:37 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
Okay so socialized medicine is okay as long as it is an emergency?



It isn't socialized medicine, it is basic common sense. Also if you didn't realize it, we already pay for people's babies being delivered in the hospital, from our insurance premiums.


It is socialized medicine, then.



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25 Aug 2011, 5:55 pm

oh the trigger word..... socialism. BAM BAM BAAAM.


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25 Aug 2011, 5:58 pm

pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
Okay so socialized medicine is okay as long as it is an emergency?



It isn't socialized medicine, it is basic common sense. Also if you didn't realize it, we already pay for people's babies being delivered in the hospital, from our insurance premiums.


It is socialized medicine, then.


No, it isn't socialism, you are just dishonestly trying to imply capitalists want people to die in the streets as usual.



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25 Aug 2011, 6:21 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
Okay so socialized medicine is okay as long as it is an emergency?



It isn't socialized medicine, it is basic common sense. Also if you didn't realize it, we already pay for people's babies being delivered in the hospital, from our insurance premiums.


It is socialized medicine, then.


No, it isn't socialism, you are just dishonestly trying to imply capitalists want people to die in the streets as usual.


Of course "Conservatives" want people to die in the streets, as usual.

Otherwise, you're talking friggin' socialism.



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25 Aug 2011, 6:26 pm

pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
Okay so socialized medicine is okay as long as it is an emergency?



It isn't socialized medicine, it is basic common sense. Also if you didn't realize it, we already pay for people's babies being delivered in the hospital, from our insurance premiums.


It is socialized medicine, then.


No, it isn't socialism, you are just dishonestly trying to imply capitalists want people to die in the streets as usual.


Of course "Conservatives" want people to die in the streets, as usual.

Otherwise, you're talking friggin' socialism.


:roll:

And people wonder why I have a poor opinion of liberals.



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25 Aug 2011, 6:35 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
Okay so socialized medicine is okay as long as it is an emergency?



It isn't socialized medicine, it is basic common sense. Also if you didn't realize it, we already pay for people's babies being delivered in the hospital, from our insurance premiums.


It is socialized medicine, then.


No, it isn't socialism, you are just dishonestly trying to imply capitalists want people to die in the streets as usual.


Of course "Conservatives" want people to die in the streets, as usual.

Otherwise, you're talking friggin' socialism.


:roll:

And people wonder why I have a poor opinion of liberals.


No-one wonders at all. You want people to die in the streets to avert socialism. Liberals don't. Thus the bifurcation.



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25 Aug 2011, 7:05 pm

pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
Okay so socialized medicine is okay as long as it is an emergency?



It isn't socialized medicine, it is basic common sense. Also if you didn't realize it, we already pay for people's babies being delivered in the hospital, from our insurance premiums.


It is socialized medicine, then.


No, it isn't socialism, you are just dishonestly trying to imply capitalists want people to die in the streets as usual.


Of course "Conservatives" want people to die in the streets, as usual.

Otherwise, you're talking friggin' socialism.


:roll:

And people wonder why I have a poor opinion of liberals.


No-one wonders at all. You want people to die in the streets to avert socialism. Liberals don't. Thus the bifurcation.


Another example of how I can tell you are lieing, is whenever you post something or your lips are moving.



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25 Aug 2011, 7:41 pm

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Another example of how I can tell you are lieing, is whenever you post something or your lips are moving.


It IS socialistic behaviour to assist in that way, without asking for anything in return. I come from commie Sweden, and have actual communist relatives, so I should know.

I guess one should call what you are talking about "selective socialism", though. Let's call you a selective socialist, then? Deal? You clearly are not anywhere near a true socialist.

Since you are a selective socialist, may I ask why you disregard the needs for people in other emergency situations, like when people are suicidal? Please explain your seeming hypocricy.



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25 Aug 2011, 8:01 pm

Beauty_pact wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Another example of how I can tell you are lieing, is whenever you post something or your lips are moving.


It IS socialistic behaviour to assist in that way, without asking for anything in return. I come from commie Sweden, and have actual communist relatives, so I should know.

I guess one should call what you are talking about "selective socialism", though. Let's call you a selective socialist, then? Deal? You clearly are not anywhere near a true socialist.

Since you are a selective socialist, may I ask why you disregard the needs for people in other emergency situations, like when people are suicidal? Please explain your seeming hypocricy.


Socialism is where government takes money/property/etc. from one person and gives it to another.

Charity is where you decide to donate your own money/property/time to help others.

You also have to consider the fact that leaving people to die in the streets is a serious health hazard.



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25 Aug 2011, 8:12 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
You can't have it both ways. You can't say that you are Pro Life and then tell a homeless woman to have her baby in the gutter.


Wth?!??

Hospitals are required to give medical aid in an emergency situation, a woman going into labor and giving birth falls into that category because it is a life and death situation (for the baby) and there is a health threat for the mother giving birth in unsanitary conditions (like a gutter).


Sounds like selective socialism to me. Not charity. Don't try to skew the facts.

Now, please answer my question.



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25 Aug 2011, 8:31 pm

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Another example of how I can tell you are lieing, is whenever you post something or your lips are moving.


Shush! People are going to start wondering about us, if you keep revealing our little secrets. :oops:



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25 Aug 2011, 8:35 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Socialism is where government takes money/property/etc. from one person and gives it to another.

As when people go to an emergency room for free.

Inuyasha wrote:
Charity is where you decide to donate your own money/property/time to help others.

As when Evangelists rake in their tithes and offerings.

Inuyasha wrote:
You also have to consider the fact that leaving people to die in the streets is a serious health hazard.

And, then when the government intervenes in a health hazard, this is "socialism."