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Who is it that actually designs, runs, and governs what we call religion?

"Religion" is purely a man-made apparatus while faith and spirituality are not. Let's make no mistake about that. Generally speaking, humankind experiences a need to express a higher reality and its relationship to that higher reality, that other world, that greater truth. It's an impulse we have, this need to create religion on the scaffolding of our primitive collective experience. You could say this kind of religion-creating behaviour is hard-coded into our brains.

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"I'm cool with Jesus, but some of his followers scare the crap out of me."

well said BUT Theism is not flawed. God loved us enough 2 send Jesus 2 die on the Cross and rise 4rm the dead!! !

well said BUT Theism is not flawed. God loved us enough 2 send Jesus 2 die on the Cross and rise 4rm the dead!! !

Do you have trust issues or something?

I am quite curious as to why killing Jesus is considered somehow a great thing. I know that Abraham was convinced that killing his son instead of a goat or sheep would put him in good stead with God and blood sacrifice of animals is a common event amongst primitive religions and therefore is the sacrificial death of Jesus somehow necessary to persuade God to forgive humanity? Why did He not simply say He forgave humanity without killing anybody. Doesn't that strike anybody as rather brutal and peculiar?

I am not criticizing it, merely wondering what the logic behind it might be. Is it a kind of super animal sacrifice to propitiate God?

Jesus was the Lamb of God, a willing sacrifice. His earthly mission was none other than to die on that cross for the sins of all mankind. The self-sacrifice of Jesus is the at the center of our faith. Take or leave it. Take it in or throw it out.

An alternative that some Christians believe is that Jesus was sent as a great teacher, and that his teachings were the thing God gave to transform the world. Such a view does not require putting him on a pedestal and worshiping him (which is rather abstract and easy) but implementing his teachings as exemplified in, say, the Sermon on the Mount. Very difficult.

Isaiah 53:1-12 ESV
1 Who has believed what they heard from us? And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
2 For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him.
3 He was despised and rejected by men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before its shearers is silent, so he opened not his mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away; and as for his generation, who considered that he was cut off out of the land of the living, stricken for the transgression of my people?
9 And they made his grave with the wicked and with a rich man in his death, although he had done no violence, and there was no deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it was the will of the LORD to crush him; he has put him to grief; when his soul makes an offering for sin, he shall see his offspring; he shall prolong his days; the will of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
11 Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see and be satisfied; by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous, and he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will divide him a portion with the many, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong, because he poured out his soul to death and was numbered with the transgressors; yet he bore the sin of many, and makes intercession for the transgressors.

Psalms 22:1-31 ESV
1 To the choirmaster: according to The Doe of the Dawn. A Psalm of David. My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, from the words of my groaning?
2 O my God, I cry by day, but you do not answer, and by night, but I find no rest.
3 Yet you are holy, enthroned on the praises of Israel.
4 In you our fathers trusted; they trusted, and you delivered them.
5 To you they cried and were rescued; in you they trusted and were not put to shame.
6 But I am a worm and not a man, scorned by mankind and despised by the people.
7 All who see me mock me; they make mouths at me; they wag their heads;
8 "He trusts in the LORD; let him deliver him; let him rescue him, for he delights in him!"
9 Yet you are he who took me from the womb; you made me trust you at my mother's breasts.
10 On you was I cast from my birth, and from my mother's womb you have been my God.
11 Be not far from me, for trouble is near, and there is none to help.
12 Many bulls encompass me; strong bulls of Bashan surround me;
13 they open wide their mouths at me, like a ravening and roaring lion.
14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint; my heart is like wax; it is melted within my breast;
15 my strength is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue sticks to my jaws; you lay me in the dust of death.
16 For dogs encompass me; a company of evildoers encircles me; they have pierced my hands and feet--
17 I can count all my bones-- they stare and gloat over me;
18 they divide my garments among them, and for my clothing they cast lots.
19 But you, O LORD, do not be far off! O you my help, come quickly to my aid!
20 Deliver my soul from the sword, my precious life from the power of the dog!
21 Save me from the mouth of the lion! You have rescued me from the horns of the wild oxen!
22 I will tell of your name to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation I will praise you:
23 You who fear the LORD, praise him! All you offspring of Jacob, glorify him, and stand in awe of him, all you offspring of Israel!
24 For he has not despised or abhorred the affliction of the afflicted, and he has not hidden his face from him, but has heard, when he cried to him.
25 From you comes my praise in the great congregation; my vows I will perform before those who fear him.
26 The afflicted shall eat and be satisfied; those who seek him shall praise the LORD! May your hearts live forever!
27 All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the LORD, and all the families of the nations shall worship before you.
28 For kingship belongs to the LORD, and he rules over the nations.
29 All the prosperous of the earth eat and worship; before him shall bow all who go down to the dust, even the one who could not keep himself alive.
30 Posterity shall serve him; it shall be told of the Lord to the coming generation;
31 they shall come and proclaim his righteousness to a people yet unborn, that he has done it.

An alternative that some Christians believe is that Jesus was sent as a great teacher, and that his teachings were the thing God gave to transform the world. Such a view does not require putting him on a pedestal and worshiping him (which is rather abstract and easy) but implementing his teachings as exemplified in, say, the Sermon on the Mount. Very difficult.

The divinity of Jesus Christ as the 2nd person of the trinity is pretty much the centerpiece of Christianity. If Jesus wasn''t the Son of God who was he?

Messiah: In Jewish messianic tradition and eschatology, the term came to refer to a future Jewish King from the Davidic line, who will be "anointed" with holy anointing oil and rule the Jewish people during the Messianic Age. In Standard Hebrew, The Messiah is often referred to as מלך המשיח, Méleḫ ha-Mašíaḥ (in the Tiberian vocalization pronounced Méleḵ hamMāšîªḥ), literally meaning "the Anointed King."

Today, the various Jewish denominations have sharp disagreements about the nature of the Messiah and the Messianic Age, with some groups holding that the Messiah will be a person and other groups holding that the Messiah is a representation of the Messianic Age itself.

Traditional thought and current Orthodox thought has mainly held that the Messiah will be an anointed one (messiah), descended from his father through the Davidic line of King David, who will gather the Jews back into the Land of Israel and usher in an era of peace.

Other denominations, such as Reform Judaism, perceive a Messianic Age when the world will be at peace, but do not agree that there will be a Messiah as the leader of this era.