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25 Aug 2011, 10:02 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
You also have to consider the fact that leaving people to die in the streets is a serious health hazard.

Unvaccinated children are a health hazard.
Cities without police are a safety hazard.
Neighborhoods without a fire department are health and safety hazards.

Vaccine clinics, police, and fire departments are socialist institutions. So are paved streets that you don't have to pay a toll for, public libraries, and public parks. So is the army.



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25 Aug 2011, 10:08 pm

LKL wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
You also have to consider the fact that leaving people to die in the streets is a serious health hazard.

Unvaccinated children are a health hazard.
Cities without police are a safety hazard.
Neighborhoods without a fire department are health and safety hazards.

Vaccine clinics, police, and fire departments are socialist institutions. So are paved streets that you don't have to pay a toll for, public libraries, and public parks. So is the army.


You pay for the roads with the gasoline tax.

Government is supposed to provide for national defense, and public safety (such as police and fire (this is usually at the local level)).



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25 Aug 2011, 10:12 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
LKL wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
You also have to consider the fact that leaving people to die in the streets is a serious health hazard.

Unvaccinated children are a health hazard.
Cities without police are a safety hazard.
Neighborhoods without a fire department are health and safety hazards.

Vaccine clinics, police, and fire departments are socialist institutions. So are paved streets that you don't have to pay a toll for, public libraries, and public parks. So is the army.


You pay for the roads with the gasoline tax.

Government is supposed to provide for national defense, and public safety (such as police and fire (this is usually at the local level)).


That makes them socialist.



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25 Aug 2011, 10:19 pm

Anyway the official Michael Savage position is that there should be armed guards at every emergency room and if you are an illegal alien you should be denied emergency medical treatment. So it is true some conservatives do indeed want a woman to have her baby born in the gutter.



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25 Aug 2011, 10:23 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Government is supposed to provide for national defense, and public safety (such as police and fire (this is usually at the local level)).
Yep national and domestic security are the bare minimum roles of the Government since the Government is designed to monopolize the use of force.

LKL wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
You also have to consider the fact that leaving people to die in the streets is a serious health hazard.

Unvaccinated children are a health hazard.
Cities without police are a safety hazard.
Neighborhoods without a fire department are health and safety hazards.

Vaccine clinics, police, and fire departments are socialist institutions. So are paved streets that you don't have to pay a toll for, public libraries, and public parks. So is the army.
Police and military are minarchist institutions, so it isn't really hypocritical for a neo-con or a libertarian to be against the Government functioning outside of those roles and yet being in favour of the Government being kept within its most basic roles. The Government enforcing religious morality is the part that is actually hypocritical for those that like to use rhetoric about small Government and adhering to the Constitution.



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25 Aug 2011, 10:33 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
LKL wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
You also have to consider the fact that leaving people to die in the streets is a serious health hazard.

Unvaccinated children are a health hazard.
Cities without police are a safety hazard.
Neighborhoods without a fire department are health and safety hazards.

Vaccine clinics, police, and fire departments are socialist institutions. So are paved streets that you don't have to pay a toll for, public libraries, and public parks. So is the army.


You pay for the roads with the gasoline tax.

Government is supposed to provide for national defense, and public safety (such as police and fire (this is usually at the local level)).

That's what socialism IS, darling.



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25 Aug 2011, 10:38 pm

That's why real conservatives want to privatize the military, the police and the fire department.



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26 Aug 2011, 6:27 pm

LKL wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
LKL wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
You also have to consider the fact that leaving people to die in the streets is a serious health hazard.

Unvaccinated children are a health hazard.
Cities without police are a safety hazard.
Neighborhoods without a fire department are health and safety hazards.

Vaccine clinics, police, and fire departments are socialist institutions. So are paved streets that you don't have to pay a toll for, public libraries, and public parks. So is the army.


You pay for the roads with the gasoline tax.

Government is supposed to provide for national defense, and public safety (such as police and fire (this is usually at the local level)).

That's what socialism IS, darling.


No, socialism is when government tries to take over businesses, mandate people buy particular products, and control people's lives from birth to grave.



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26 Aug 2011, 7:15 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
LKL wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
LKL wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
You also have to consider the fact that leaving people to die in the streets is a serious health hazard.

Unvaccinated children are a health hazard.
Cities without police are a safety hazard.
Neighborhoods without a fire department are health and safety hazards.

Vaccine clinics, police, and fire departments are socialist institutions. So are paved streets that you don't have to pay a toll for, public libraries, and public parks. So is the army.


You pay for the roads with the gasoline tax.

Government is supposed to provide for national defense, and public safety (such as police and fire (this is usually at the local level)).

That's what socialism IS, darling.


No, socialism is when government tries to take over businesses, mandate people buy particular products, and control people's lives from birth to grave.


wow what a misinformed view.

socialism is when people actively help eachother as a social entity to further everyone.

look at the freedom index and decide for yourself how "opressed" the free market socialist states are.


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26 Aug 2011, 8:39 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
LKL wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
LKL wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
You also have to consider the fact that leaving people to die in the streets is a serious health hazard.

Unvaccinated children are a health hazard.
Cities without police are a safety hazard.
Neighborhoods without a fire department are health and safety hazards.

Vaccine clinics, police, and fire departments are socialist institutions. So are paved streets that you don't have to pay a toll for, public libraries, and public parks. So is the army.


You pay for the roads with the gasoline tax.

Government is supposed to provide for national defense, and public safety (such as police and fire (this is usually at the local level)).

That's what socialism IS, darling.


No, socialism is when government tries to take over businesses, mandate people buy particular products, and control people's lives from birth to grave.


And what do you call the government takeover of the road business, Sweetie? The national defense and public safety businesses?



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27 Aug 2011, 12:31 am

Oodain wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
LKL wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
LKL wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
You also have to consider the fact that leaving people to die in the streets is a serious health hazard.

Unvaccinated children are a health hazard.
Cities without police are a safety hazard.
Neighborhoods without a fire department are health and safety hazards.

Vaccine clinics, police, and fire departments are socialist institutions. So are paved streets that you don't have to pay a toll for, public libraries, and public parks. So is the army.


You pay for the roads with the gasoline tax.

Government is supposed to provide for national defense, and public safety (such as police and fire (this is usually at the local level)).

That's what socialism IS, darling.


No, socialism is when government tries to take over businesses, mandate people buy particular products, and control people's lives from birth to grave.


wow what a misinformed view.

socialism is when people actively help eachother as a social entity to further everyone.

look at the freedom index and decide for yourself how "opressed" the free market socialist states are.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're the one with the misinformed view, one doesn't become perfect and no longer have a fallen nature when they are in government. In fact, they tend to become more corrupt. The Constitution was created by our founding fathers as a safeguard to protect the people from an out of control government. They split things up between 3 branches of Government to attempt to keep power from falling into the hands of any one branch.



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27 Aug 2011, 6:54 am

Inuyasha wrote:
You're the one with the misinformed view, one doesn't become perfect and no longer have a fallen nature when they are in government. In fact, they tend to become more corrupt. The Constitution was created by our founding fathers as a safeguard to protect the people from an out of control government. They split things up between 3 branches of Government to attempt to keep power from falling into the hands of any one branch.


Let me guess, though. They don't become more corrupt when they get power in a corporation? And certainly not in a free market, right? Limitless power to a corporation is fine, but not to a government. Is that your position?



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27 Aug 2011, 9:24 am

inuyasha you ignorant fool, our constitution in denmark has pretty much all of what you mentioned.

constitutions didnt start with the us, they didnt end with the us and are all in all pretty common among european nations.


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27 Aug 2011, 7:55 pm

Another option, rather than for the government to pay for raped pregnant women to take care of their brats, is to have private, for-profit firms to raise the brats.

When they get old enough (say, 4 years old) they can go to work in mines and factories. Might as well get some profit out of the little bastards.

I am envisioning the firms being run by evangelical Christians, so that the bastards will at least have a good evangelical faith and strong work ethic.



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27 Aug 2011, 8:20 pm

Aren't we through YET with the bearbaiting?

I have a bullfight to attend.

Most PPR threads wind up bearbaiting or bullfighting - says something about it.



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27 Aug 2011, 8:28 pm

cave_canem wrote:
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You're the one with the misinformed view, one doesn't become perfect and no longer have a fallen nature when they are in government. In fact, they tend to become more corrupt. The Constitution was created by our founding fathers as a safeguard to protect the people from an out of control government. They split things up between 3 branches of Government to attempt to keep power from falling into the hands of any one branch.


Let me guess, though. They don't become more corrupt when they get power in a corporation? And certainly not in a free market, right? Limitless power to a corporation is fine, but not to a government. Is that your position?


CEOs are responsible to the share-holders whom can simply fire the CEO.