The Truth AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH: 2016 Election

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21 Jun 2016, 1:27 pm

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Mateen wasn't associated with any terror group. He claimed at various times to being part of terrorist groups who opposed each other. He is clearly quite insane. I was referring to mass shootings we've had so often in our country, not possible terror attacks...

he seems pretty consistent with his extremist beliefs for more than 15 years, his father literally supports the Taliban

al-Nusra and ISIS don't really oppose each other as they are both offshoots of the same Sunni Salafi Islam. Hezbollah reputation in the Arab world has done a 180 since the beginning of the Syrian Civil War. He had a friend that went and blew himself up in Syria, the guy was most definitely not just some lone nutjob. If you want to do the insanity route, he doesn't fit the profile whatsoever. He made it explicitly clear why he was doing this and who he pledged his allegiance too.

He may have said he was acting on their behalf. That doesn't mean he isn't insane...

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21 Jun 2016, 1:34 pm

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Nurse Angela, it took you quite some time to turn me in...

Cause I didn't turn you in. Someone else must not like you either. Calling me "vile" doesn't do it, dude. I can handle that cause that's a personal opinion and I don't care if you like me. However, I'm not going to have someone calling me "racist" or "bigot" which are things that I am not just because I have a different opinion. Got it?

Just to be sure I got it, you are vile but not a racist. Hmmm. I would however suggest many more here dislike you ...

And you know what? I don't care - they wouldn't be anyone of any importance. There are very few here that I'd want to be in the same room with, but those few are wonderful - better than a lot of NT's I know. And before you say anything - some are on the Left and in the Middle so there is actually a way to get along with people without calling them names. Unfortunately, you haven't learned that yet, but you're alive so there's still time. :mrgreen:

And maybe, just maybe with time, you too will learn to love Grumpy Cat's picture-she grows on you after awhile.

Don't hold your breath. On second thought, do hold your breath.

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21 Jun 2016, 3:24 pm

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Oh crap. In the article it says the kid has Autism.

So do you think we should build a wall to keep autistic people out too? :roll:

If I were you, I would be a little bit more worried about them wanting to lock more Autistic people up if they keep linking these shootings to Autism. And since they got rid of Aspergers and put everyone into one big group of Autism, it isn't going to look too good for the HFA people. Society already has a lack of education about Aspergers and Autism as it is. This kind of negative publicity is just going to hurt HFA Aspies when it comes to employers and society in general.

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21 Jun 2016, 3:47 pm

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He may have said he was acting on their behalf. That doesn't mean he isn't insane...

How do you define insane? He wasn't psychotic, he knew right from wrong, he seemed to act calm and calculating with a lot of thought put in this target which he spotted out beforehand with his 2nd wife I might add. He doesn't fit the profile of the lone wolf mentally unstable attacker, he fits the profile of a terrorist. They say it was all 'homegrown' but do you really believe he had no contact with jihadists? As mentioned his friend blew himself up as a suicide bomber in Syria the other year, he had visited Saudi Arabia twice recently, his father praises the Taliban, this goes back more than 15 years to 9/11. ISIS and these terrorists are not stupid, our government doesn't really know what these people are saying to each other since they know how to communicate anonymously which is really easy on the internet if you spend like 20 minutes learning how to do it. It's isn't the clearweb, they're not searching on google for jihadiplanetDOTnet. There are more people involved in this, this guy was not some socially isolated person rather more it seems a violent hothead that wasn't particularly too smart. ISIS has never taken credit before for an attack like this, I 100% believe he was in contact with them or someone affiliated.

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21 Jun 2016, 4:04 pm

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Oh crap. In the article it says the kid has Autism.

So do you think we should build a wall to keep autistic people out too? :roll:

My point is that we can't just put up a wall and hope that all the bad elements stay on the other side. It's just not how the world works. I mean this guy got in legally than overstayed his visa. That is one of the most common ways illegal immigrants come to be illegal.

And to your point about the media and autism, I largely agree with you. The media certainly isn't helping the general public with understanding autism or mental illness in general and that is defiantly making the lives of many of us here harder.

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21 Jun 2016, 4:35 pm

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From Drudge :

Here's the latest on the little ass that tried to kill Trump :

Authorities: UK man arrested at rally planned to kill Trump. http://tiny.iavian.net/aud5

People who don't live in America need to mind their own business and stay out of American politics! This just reinforces the need for Trump and The Wall(s) - I want to be completely sealed off from these goons!

You do know there's an ocean between the US and the UK?

There are also boats, dude. Wait, I forgot that I'm not talking to you.

Next!

Um... People from the UK aren't really the kind of people who are trying to sneak in. A wall can't solve all our country's problems. You know if you really want to be surrounded by walls at all times, you could just not leave you're house. :lol:

You jest, but seriously, I haven't left my house in over a week. I should write a book on how to become a hermit. It's possible with Amazon, QVC, Hyvee grocery delivery, school being done online and even being able to do exercise at home! My work check gets automatically deposited and I use my debit card to pay my bills. At this rate, I don't see myself needing to leave the house for another 2 weeks when I have to go back to work. Unless I go out with Ma or a friend to "do something". :mrgreen:

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21 Jun 2016, 4:59 pm

Nurseangela,

That's something many of us have in common. I'm pretty sure most of us here would describe ourselves as hermits. The internet really makes that kind of life easier.

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21 Jun 2016, 6:01 pm

I think that we can all agree that attempting to shoot politicians is wrong, regardless of how much we might hate them.

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21 Jun 2016, 6:07 pm

I have an online and real world presence.

I'm thinking of writing a parody of
Where have all the flowers gone.

Where have all the campaign funds gone?

Will Rodgers and Pete Seeger would be flourishing in their respective fields.

Love and prayers

a me named Zvi.

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21 Jun 2016, 6:41 pm

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I think that we can all agree that attempting to shoot politicians is wrong, regardless of how much we might hate them.

Think again. I bet some gun nuts on this forum think that the 2nd amendment is all about that.

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21 Jun 2016, 6:44 pm

I don't think anybody here goes that far.

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21 Jun 2016, 6:47 pm

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I think that we can all agree that attempting to shoot politicians is wrong, regardless of how much we might hate them.

Think again. I bet some gun nuts on this forum think that the 2nd amendment is all about that.

You could use an attitude adjustment. Wait, I forgot again that I'm not talking to you.

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21 Jun 2016, 6:52 pm

And I didn't know that we had any Leftist gun nuts on this forum. After all, who else would be firing on Trump?

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21 Jun 2016, 6:54 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

I don't think anybody here goes that far.

Most of these gun nuts on the right regularly claim the second amendment was written just for the ability to bring down what they believe to be a tyrannical government. We also know that many on the far right believe that our government, particularly left leaning people, comprise a tyrannical government. Not so much on the left. Most people wouldn't do so, but anyone a little off in the head with those ideas could be pushed over the edge. That said, Trump shouldn't be killed. No one else should be either. I'll bet Nurse Angela would be surprised by my last statement that Trump shouldn't be killed...

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21 Jun 2016, 6:58 pm

My opinion: Let Trump run. Let the people decide.

I really feel like people should stop trying to screw him---and let him screw himself. Let him put his own foot in his mouth.

I believe the "gun nuts" are all about "self-defense." They don't want to foment revolution. At least not anybody on WrongPlanet.

I don't find anybody here who would advocate a coup to take over the Government. Or any Government.

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21 Jun 2016, 7:02 pm

I see 3 dots at the end of that last sentence. You got something else planned, don't ya?

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