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monty
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12 Sep 2008, 2:15 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

In all of the Gospels, Jesus was executed and otherwise treated in a manner consistent with Isaiah chapter 53 and Psalm 22, which I'll post:


If someone was convinced that this portion of Isaiah was a poem written to Martin Luther King by the nation of America, they would read it and see the eery way that it fits:

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For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no
beauty that we should desire him.

He was despised and rejected by men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted.

But he was wounded for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his stripes we are healed.

All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.

He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before its shearers is silent, so he opened not his mouth.

By oppression and judgment he was taken away; and as for his generation, who considered that he was cut off out of the land of the living, stricken for the transgression of my people?

And they made his grave with the wicked and with a rich man in his death, although he had done no violence, and there was no deceit in his mouth.

Yet it was the will of the LORD to crush him; he has put him to grief; when his soul makes an offering for sin, he shall see his offspring; he shall prolong his days; the will of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see and be satisfied; by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous, and he shall bear their iniquities.

Therefore I will divide him a portion with the many, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong, because he poured out his soul to death and was numbered with the transgressors; yet he bore the sin of many, and makes intercession for the transgressors.



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12 Sep 2008, 6:59 pm

monty wrote:
If someone was convinced that this portion of Isaiah was a poem written to Martin Luther King by the nation of America, they would read it and see the eery way that it fits:


There are more constraints than just one passage,
but I suppose people can think whatever they wish.



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19 Sep 2008, 12:38 pm

Anubis wrote:
You can't just say that "god does not exist!! !!", it just alienates people.


Yes I can, because it's true. Saying some god or deity exists alienates, insults, and disrespects me. :P

The truth is out there.

"Keep they religion to thyself!" -George Carlin


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