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26 Aug 2025, 9:50 am

Dog whistling seems to get everyone voting for the wrong people.


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26 Aug 2025, 10:01 am

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I think his desperate populism and "back of a fag packet" policies should be enough to sink him - he never gets far when closely questioned and like the idiot Johnson, just blusters.


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I'm guessing it was "back of a fag packet" ?

In the UK "fag" mostly means "a cigarette". The other meaning is rarely used there.
It was also used in some posh schools like Eton, whereby younger pupils (fags) were required to act as personal servants (fagging) to the eldest boys.

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26 Aug 2025, 10:08 am

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Dog whistling seems to get everyone voting for the wrong people.


I like the thought that people can think for themselves when it comes down to it
Im not into all that jiggery-pokery me

Doesn't mean it doesn't go on though


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26 Aug 2025, 10:15 am

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I read somewhere that "illegals" (aka "people") are just 3% of total immigration
I was wondering why illegal migrants who made it all the way to France would want to risk it all by attempting to cross the channel to England.
Weird, isn't it?
I assume it's a bit Dick Whittington, where the streets of London were supposed to be paved with gold = the UK has a probably undeserved reputation as the land of freedom, milk and honey (but no gold sidewalks).

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Is England really so much better than continental Europe?
I've not travelled much but I did tour Holland extensively (on an IT-related mission) and it was very much more friendly.
Maybe the UK draw is the history, royalty and the "Mother of Parliaments" stuff? :chin:

An American I met several years ago was surprised and a little disappointed to discover that English people are just like anyone else. He had this idea they were all naturally super intelligent. :lol:


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26 Aug 2025, 10:22 am

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Dog whistling seems to get everyone voting for the wrong people.
Or gets the knuckle draggers shouting and waving flags outside hotels housing migrants.


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26 Aug 2025, 11:07 am

I wouldn't be too worried about "knuckle draggers"

If anything they do very little to promote the image of a political party

It's like when poverty striken people outside food banks used to praise Boris Johnson for making the country a better place for them

It's just the media taking the piss


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26 Aug 2025, 12:06 pm

^ Good points.
If Garage whips up that behavior it's only going to backfire on Reform.

Most UK newspapers are terrible, so polarized and biased.


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26 Aug 2025, 12:58 pm

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Dog whistling seems to get everyone voting for the wrong people.
Or gets the knuckle draggers shouting and waving flags outside hotels housing migrants.


Yeah, I don't want any part of that. Some people have been asking me to join them in those protests but I just said no and stayed home. All I care about is the NHS.


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26 Aug 2025, 2:04 pm

Unfortunately I really can see Farage becoming our next PM.


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26 Aug 2025, 2:20 pm

There's little point in burying your head in the sand

It'll certainly be interesting to see what happens after the next election


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26 Aug 2025, 4:17 pm

If the worst happens then hopefully it will be a Truss moment and he's quickly kicked out.
He has nothing but complaints and bluster.


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26 Aug 2025, 6:11 pm

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In the UK "fag" mostly means "a cigarette".


In the USA, it is a VERY bad word--on the same level as another word that begins with the letter n.


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27 Aug 2025, 1:18 am

Yeah it's not really used as derogatory term in the UK

It would probably cause some kind of reaction if I said "my dad used to love a fag"


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27 Aug 2025, 7:02 am

Honey69 wrote:
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In the UK "fag" mostly means "a cigarette".
In the USA, it is a VERY bad word--on the same level as another word that begins with the letter n.
Ooh - that bad? 8O
I thought it was just a general derogatory term in the USA.


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27 Aug 2025, 7:04 am

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It would probably cause some kind of reaction if I said "my dad used to love a fag"
:lol: Yes indeed...


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27 Aug 2025, 8:53 am

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Yeah it's not really used as derogatory term in the UK

I'd say it is, but it's also got the meaning for smokes. When I smoked I often referred to cigarettes as fags, but nowadays depending on my company, I'd hold my tongue and change my language for something less offensive.