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20 Oct 2022, 2:36 pm

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Candidates to replace Liz Truss as Tory leader will need at least 100 nominations from Conservative MPs, 1922 Committee chair Sir Graham Brady has said.

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This will rule out a number of candidates from running, and means the maximum number of people able to stand is three.

During the last leadership election, Rishi Sunak won 137 nominations, Ms Truss 113 and Penny Mordaunt 105.

"We fixed a high threshold but a threshold that should be achievable by any serious candidate who has a prospect of going through," Sir Graham said.

Nominations are open from now and will close at 2pm on Monday - with a new leader to be chosen by the end of the week.

The final two candidates will take part in a hustings event organised with news broadcasters, before an online vote for members to choose who they want to lead the party.

However, Sky's political correspondent Ali Fortescue said "it could end up being that it doesn't go to the membership".

She points out that some MPs don't want the vote to go to the party membership, given that Ms Truss was their last pick.

"They know this is a last chance - they won't be able to go through another prime minister as quickly as this," she said.

One potential option is that MPs coalesce around one candidate, meaning the contest will be over on Monday if only one person is able to receive enough nominations.

Sir Graham has already said that the new prime minister will be chosen by Friday 28 October, with Ms Truss to stay on as PM until then.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/candidates-to-replace-liz-truss-as-tory-leader-will-need-at-least-100-nominations/ar-AA13ccAq


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20 Oct 2022, 2:40 pm

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Apparently Boris Johnson is going to enter the leadership election to be Prime Minister again. This election will be completed within a week and voting only includes 0.2% of the British public.

This is madness!

Yes it's bonkers. I don't think they'll actually pick Boris again so soon though, he's probably still too toxic since Partygate etc. I think he was an aberration (among other less complimentary things) - they were struggling to find anybody electable from the moment Cameron quit, and clearly they're struggling now. They're very divided.


Oh I don't know though...Lots of Tory MPs are saying Boris is the clear choice to unite the party and that their constituents want him back. The journalists were incredulous on the C4 news, they were virtually saying WTF :lol:

Oh s**t! It's beginning to look like it was all a plot after all. Still, if he gets in, he's got 2 years to blot his copybook again.



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20 Oct 2022, 3:16 pm

After all that's transpired, I can't believe they're even considering Boris.

It's almost like Boris "knew all along."

In this sense (pardon the reference), he's just like Trump. He feels like he's "teflon," and can get away with anything. It's not the parties during COVID and all that that I'm concerned about----rather, it's the abject lying.



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20 Oct 2022, 3:21 pm

Does Labour have a chance?


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20 Oct 2022, 5:49 pm

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In this sense (pardon the reference), he's just like Trump.

Yes I think so. In the UK he's been referred to as "Little Trump," with some justification IMO.
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He feels like he's "teflon," and can get away with anything. It's not the parties during COVID and all that that I'm concerned about----rather, it's the abject lying.

Both dangerous right-wing populists I think. They pretend to be "men of the people" while secretly laughing at us all the way to the bank. Both men capitalised on the disenfranchisement felt by the uneducated racist element of the working class, Trump with his wall and Boris with his Brexit. Both talk like complete idiots to endear themselves to their fans. And their methods are terrifyingly effective.

This isn't serious evidence, it's just a bit of comic relief:
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21 Oct 2022, 2:40 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
After all that's transpired, I can't believe they're even considering Boris.

It's almost like Boris "knew all along."

In this sense (pardon the reference), he's just like Trump. He feels like he's "teflon," and can get away with anything. It's not the parties during COVID and all that that I'm concerned about----rather, it's the abject lying.

Anne Widdecombe (an ex conservative mp) said that, "Boris Johnson's hopes of making a sensational return to No.10 are likely to be scuppered by the ongoing Parliamentary inquiry against him." regarding the investigation into him 'allegedly' misleading parliament about not knowing anything about the partying at Downing Street, when Covid restrictions forbade such gatherings:

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The snaps were taken at a gathering in honour of the Downing Street's then Director
of Communications Lee Cain, with eight people pictured standing closely together, as
well as the photographer.


I imagine avoiding any further scandals would be particularly high on the conservative agenda with things being as they have this year and more recently, but time will tell.


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21 Oct 2022, 5:22 am

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Thread title should be changed to "New New Prime Minister for the UK?" :lol:


Or "New 'Prime Minister' for the UK"....


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21 Oct 2022, 7:18 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
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Apparently Boris Johnson is going to enter the leadership election to be Prime Minister again. This election will be completed within a week and voting only includes 0.2% of the British public.

This is madness!

Yes it's bonkers. I don't think they'll actually pick Boris again so soon though, he's probably still too toxic since Partygate etc. I think he was an aberration (among other less complimentary things) - they were struggling to find anybody electable from the moment Cameron quit, and clearly they're struggling now. They're very divided.
You'd think so, and hope so - but two comments on that:

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A memory loss example in action:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-63338261
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Johnson has a mandate - Wallace

Let's get a bit more about why Ben Wallace is "leaning towards" supporting Boris Johnson to return as prime minister.

The defence secretary explains Johnson won "a huge majority" in the 2019 election and that he was "legitimately sent into Parliament as the prime minister based on the vote of the whole electorate".

"He got a mandate and I think that's an important thing for all of us to bear in mind," he adds.
Incredible. :roll: Never mind all that other stuff that got him kicked out.

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Here is our list so far of how many MPs have backed them:

Rishi Sunak - 45
Boris Johnson - 24
Penny Mordaunt - 17


Semi-related - a really creepy Johnson deepfake -
https://twitter.com/TommyGribbin/status ... 1940068354


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21 Oct 2022, 8:57 am

Doberdoofus wrote:
Thread title should be changed to "New New Prime Minister for the UK?" :lol:


Yes and keep going.

New New New Prime Minister for the UK

New New New New Prime Minister for the UK

ad infinitum...


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21 Oct 2022, 8:59 am

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Oh s**t! It's beginning to look like it was all a plot after all. Still, if he gets in, he's got 2 years to blot his copybook again.


Indeed.

A reminder of his crimes. Please spread this around so people have evidence of his behaviour to remind the 'hard of thinking' why he shouldn't be PM again.

Fines, lies and chaos: a reminder of Boris Johnson’s time as PM


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21 Oct 2022, 9:01 am

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After all that's transpired, I can't believe they're even considering Boris.

It's almost like Boris "knew all along."

In this sense (pardon the reference), he's just like Trump. He feels like he's "teflon," and can get away with anything. It's not the parties during COVID and all that that I'm concerned about----rather, it's the abject lying.


I agree with all of that, apart from the bit about the parties. Breaking the rules while the public obeyed them and therefore their relatives died alone and frightened is NOT what a leader should do.

Fines, lies and chaos: a reminder of Boris Johnson’s time as PM


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21 Oct 2022, 9:02 am

I just see too many parallels between the Boris situation and the Trump situation.....



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21 Oct 2022, 9:06 am

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Both dangerous right-wing populists I think. They pretend to be "men of the people" while secretly laughing at us all the way to the bank. Both men capitalised on the disenfranchisement felt by the uneducated racist element of the working class, Trump with his wall and Boris with his Brexit. Both talk like complete idiots to endear themselves to their fans. And their methods are terrifyingly effective.


Agreed. 100% true.


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21 Oct 2022, 9:08 am

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Anne Widdecombe (an ex conservative mp) said that, "Boris Johnson's hopes of making a sensational return to No.10 are likely to be scuppered by the ongoing Parliamentary inquiry against him." regarding the investigation into him 'allegedly' misleading parliament about not knowing anything about the partying at Downing Street, when Covid restrictions forbade such gatherings.


I imagine avoiding any further scandals would be particularly high on the conservative agenda with things being as they have this year and more recently, but time will tell.


Anne Widdecombe, however, is as nutty as a fruitcake so I'd take that with a large pinch of salt.

They don't care about scandals. They just change the law so it isn't a crime anymore.


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21 Oct 2022, 9:09 am

Obviously, I agree that Boris Johnson is a profligate idiot who had no regard for the suffering of "regular" people afflicted in many ways with COVID.



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