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22 Aug 2016, 6:47 am

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growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell. [Edward abbey]


Exactly. That is the quote I was referring to when I used those words haha

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22 Aug 2016, 6:56 am

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That said, here is my controversial opinion!

I don't follow gender theory as it relates to trans-genderism. I think that people who change their bodies in order to conform to societal expectations are tragic; it's a result of our individualistic culture, where we change our superficial selves instead of trying to change society. If you're born as a male or female sex, that isn't something you can ever change, and being a transwoman is not the same as being a woman.

This isn't to say that I dislike people who transform themselves in this way. I respect that there is a thought process, even if I don't think it is correct.


I think the recent boom in trans-genderism (fluid, non-binary, bi etc) and its attendent categories (see also: sexuality) is a right step in the wrong direction.

Better yet to evacuate all notions of gender. It only causes a lot of bother.


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22 Aug 2016, 7:20 am

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Almajo88 wrote:

That said, here is my controversial opinion!

I don't follow gender theory as it relates to trans-genderism. I think that people who change their bodies in order to conform to societal expectations are tragic; it's a result of our individualistic culture, where we change our superficial selves instead of trying to change society. If you're born as a male or female sex, that isn't something you can ever change, and being a transwoman is not the same as being a woman.

This isn't to say that I dislike people who transform themselves in this way. I respect that there is a thought process, even if I don't think it is correct.



I think the recent boom in trans-genderism (fluid, non-binary, bi etc) and its attendent categories (see also: sexuality) is a right step in the wrong direction.

Better yet to evacuate all notions of gender. It only causes a lot of bother.


agree also, its a disturbing way around to re-inforce gender expectations, by some who push this nonsense
have we not worked hard to change roles only to get thrown away for consumable desires?



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22 Aug 2016, 7:51 am

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I hate military hero worship, I think most people in uniform are pompous, vile, self-serving scumbags. The institution itself hasn't contributed anything of value to the world in a very long time and deserves way less funding.


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22 Aug 2016, 8:37 am

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I hate military hero worship, I think most people in uniform are pompous, vile, self-serving scumbags. The institution itself hasn't contributed anything of value to the world in a very long time and deserves way less funding.


My grandfather was in the military and saw combat and he would tell you that its people like you that causes people to have PTSD and shell shock. It does something to a man when they sacrifice so much to get spit on when they return home. I respect your opinion but its an absolute horrible one and has very bad consequences if you make it known to our soldiers.



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22 Aug 2016, 12:00 pm

dcj123 wrote:
MDD123 wrote:
I hate military hero worship, I think most people in uniform are pompous, vile, self-serving scumbags. The institution itself hasn't contributed anything of value to the world in a very long time and deserves way less funding.


My grandfather was in the military and saw combat and he would tell you that its people like you that causes people to have PTSD and shell shock. It does something to a man when they sacrifice so much to get spit on when they return home. I respect your opinion but its an absolute horrible one and has very bad consequences if you make it known to our soldiers.

I'm anti-war, but I have a great deal of respect for people in the armed forces. They put up with all sorts of crap that we don't even think about in our day to day lives, and they often don't get the thanks that they deserve for their sacrifices.


I think if anyone deserves to be spit upon, it's the politicians who create unnecessary conflicts that lead to wars being fought. They may not be the ones out on the battlefield, but ultimately they're the ones with all the blood on their hands.


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23 Aug 2016, 8:03 pm

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I hate military hero worship, I think most people in uniform are pompous, vile, self-serving scumbags. The institution itself hasn't contributed anything of value to the world in a very long time and deserves way less funding.


My grandfather was in the military and saw combat and he would tell you that its people like you that causes people to have PTSD and shell shock. It does something to a man when they sacrifice so much to get spit on when they return home. I respect your opinion but its an absolute horrible one and has very bad consequences if you make it known to our soldiers.


Things were different for your grandpa, nowadays troops get non-stop praise, they spend a year or so touring a country they'll never have to live in, then they come home heroes for life. I've seen my share of NCOs huddled together tough-talking lower enlisted while they actually worked; I'd see those same lower enlisted start to emulate that kind of behavior, talking down to people and lamenting the old-school army they were never in. I've seen them bully people just for not drinking, or being gay(committed suicide), or listening to classical music. Saw a guy who was beside himself with pride because he shot an old man who was too senile to notice the warning sign (had his confirmed kill). I've seen them on FB ridiculing teenagers for wanting safe spaces, while wanting empathy for PTSD. Nothing they did actually made this country a better place, and the way they do things is just vile, I stand by that.


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23 Aug 2016, 8:11 pm

we need to stop being the world's policeman/bully- send 'em home!



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26 Aug 2016, 3:57 pm

In future elections in cities with a large homeless population, the people should elect leaders who understand the needs of the homeless instead of turning their backs. Portland city leaders are an example of those who refuse to do anything about issues that need solutions to them.


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26 Aug 2016, 4:02 pm

as soon as a bully anywhere in school is located, he or she needs to be extracted from the student population and put in some other place.



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26 Aug 2016, 4:04 pm

auntblabby wrote:
as soon as a bully anywhere in school is located, he or she needs to be extracted from the student population and put in some other place.


I agree.


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26 Aug 2016, 4:08 pm

MDD123 wrote:
dcj123 wrote:
MDD123 wrote:
I hate military hero worship, I think most people in uniform are pompous, vile, self-serving scumbags. The institution itself hasn't contributed anything of value to the world in a very long time and deserves way less funding.


My grandfather was in the military and saw combat and he would tell you that its people like you that causes people to have PTSD and shell shock. It does something to a man when they sacrifice so much to get spit on when they return home. I respect your opinion but its an absolute horrible one and has very bad consequences if you make it known to our soldiers.


Things were different for your grandpa, nowadays troops get non-stop praise, they spend a year or so touring a country they'll never have to live in, then they come home heroes for life. I've seen my share of NCOs huddled together tough-talking lower enlisted while they actually worked; I'd see those same lower enlisted start to emulate that kind of behavior, talking down to people and lamenting the old-school army they were never in. I've seen them bully people just for not drinking, or being gay(committed suicide), or listening to classical music. Saw a guy who was beside himself with pride because he shot an old man who was too senile to notice the warning sign (had his confirmed kill). I've seen them on FB ridiculing teenagers for wanting safe spaces, while wanting empathy for PTSD. Nothing they did actually made this country a better place, and the way they do things is just vile, I stand by that.


In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


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26 Aug 2016, 4:21 pm

a lot of ex-GIs hired as cops treat us civilians [at least the working and underclass] in a similar manner as the insurgents they dealt with while they were active-duty.



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26 Aug 2016, 5:21 pm

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a lot of ex-GIs hired as cops treat us civilians [at least the working and underclass] in a similar manner as the insurgents they dealt with while they were active-duty.


And?


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26 Aug 2016, 5:25 pm

the American middle class self-righteously supports an abusive law enforcement establishment that hassles the lower classes.



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26 Aug 2016, 5:28 pm

auntblabby wrote:
the American middle class self-righteously supports an abusive law enforcement establishment that hassles the lower classes.


I don't doubt it.

I'm wondering what that has to do with veteran. Do police officers who weren't veterans treat the lower classes substantially better?


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