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27 Aug 2025, 6:38 pm

What word is P*i then? (I put the asterisk in myself).


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28 Aug 2025, 1:15 am

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The "P" word is an extremely offensive and racial slur in the UK and in other countries but it's not even censored on here

TW Racial slur


It is a word that offends me by the way but I just wanted to test the system

Sorry for any offence caused

So I'm thinking the censor thingy is a tad bais
Wut?
The site runs on software that was set up by an American who added offensive words known to him to the auto-censor and over the years, many more have been added.
So as an American, how likely do you think it is that Alex was as aware as a Brit that "P*i" is offensive? Or had even heard of the word at all?

It's not telepathic and it doesn't somehow magically pick up offensive words as they're used - the censor needs to be told which word to censor.
So instead of accusations of (I assume) bias, anyone is free to suggest words they find offensive are added to the auto-censor.
Consequently that word is now censored.

That it wasn't censored until today indicates that the word wasn't used here in decades or if it was, no-one complained.

BTW - when testing a word to see if it's censored there's no need to actually post it and risk causing offence.
Creating a post containing the word and then previewing it without posting will show if it's censored or not.


Blame shifting.

It's not my fault there is an error in the system either and I posted it to fully make my point and at least I apologised.

How about the representative of this site apologising for any offence that may have previously been caused because this particular word has been overlooked...its not hard to type in keywords to find posts you know



It's not my fault either that Alex is American and was a child when he created this site and wasn't aware of what is offensive in other countries.

It's done now anyway

It wasn't a personal attack on the site by the way

It was in response to Honey's comment about the moderation

But hey!

Also 2022 it was last used (from what I can see) and you're right, it's not often used often but that's no excuse

I was also merely pointing out that the word isn't taken as seriously in other places across the world just like fa***t isn't taken as seriously in some countries around the world.

As the topic of censorship came up here I used WP as an example
If I was anywhere else I would have used that place as an example

(Again) It's nothing personal

I won't respond to anymore on this. I've pointed something out, its been altered, I've been blamed for it 8-O and I've defended myself

There's not much more I can do


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28 Aug 2025, 4:45 am

Tamaya wrote:
What word is P*i then? (I put the asterisk in myself).


It's the F word


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28 Aug 2025, 6:53 am

babybird wrote:
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What word is P*i then? (I put the asterisk in myself).


It's the F word


Is it a racial slur? I'm confused.


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28 Aug 2025, 6:55 am

No

Was you on about the word Honey brought forward because that translates at f*****g


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28 Aug 2025, 6:58 am

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babybird wrote:
The "P" word is an extremely offensive and racial slur in the UK and in other countries but it's not even censored on here

TW Racial slur


It is a word that offends me by the way but I just wanted to test the system

Sorry for any offence caused

So I'm thinking the censor thingy is a tad bais


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28 Aug 2025, 7:01 am

You would have to look it up mate

You said you self censored it anyway


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28 Aug 2025, 7:03 am

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You would have to look it up mate


Oh, I get it now. :lol:

(Not laughing at the word, just laughing at me being dense :lol: )


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28 Aug 2025, 7:33 am

babybird wrote:
Blame shifting.
Not at all - just pointing out how the auto-censor is managed and how it was based initially on an American understanding of offensive words.
It's hardly your fault that a word wasn't censored.

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How about the representative of this site apologising for any offence that may have previously been caused because this particular word has been overlooked
No problem - point out instances where someone was offended by an uncensored word which should have been, and I'll make a formal apology. And censor the word, if that hasn't already been done.
Although - any historical instances where that word was posted uncensored are now... censored.

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It's not my fault either that Alex is American and was a child when he created this site and wasn't aware of what is offensive in other countries.
I don't think anyone said it was your fault, did they? :scratch:

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It wasn't a personal attack on the site by the way
Understood.


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28 Aug 2025, 7:45 am

Tamaya wrote:
What word is P*i then? (I put the asterisk in myself).
There was no reason to do so because it's now censored automatically.
See my post a little earlier.

Rather than risk further offence by posting the word in a way that bypasses the auto-censor, here's a Wiki page explaining it.

Based partly on the method of de-fanging the raw word as described on that page, I've adjusted the censoring to replace it with "P-word".


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28 Aug 2025, 7:49 am

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If Trump dies in office, which seems inevitable considering he's almost 80 years old and the stress of the presidency is speeding up his dementia, what would J.D. Vance's presidency look like?

He's in a better state of mind than Trump. I don't expect him to roll back everything Trump has done to initiate fascism in The States, that's just not gonna happen. Will he double down and willingly make everything worse? Or will he take a step back and be average compared to Trump?

He's a very different sort of person than Trump. Not sure what that means for a future with him as President. He is a convert to Roman Catholicism. Quite serious about that.

I am given to believe that he admires Peter Thiel. I asked Google's AI and got this answer that might hint at policies under a future President Vance:

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Peter Thiel would likely view a utopian society as one where technological progress is pursued relentlessly, leading to increased personal freedom and scientific advancement, possibly through innovative economic models and even seaborne settlements, as seen in his past support for such ambitious projects. His vision would likely be shaped by his conservative-libertarian ideology and Christian faith, emphasizing a focus on markets and individual autonomy to drive innovation.
Here's a breakdown of the elements that would likely comprise his ideal society:
Technological Innovation:
Thiel believes in the relentless pursuit of technological progress, seeing it as the path to human advancement, freedom, and salvation.
Economic Freedom and Markets:
He sees cities and settlements as fundamentally markets for goods and services and supports the creation of new economic models and autonomous zones to scale up these markets.
Self-Governance and Autonomy:
His interest in projects like seaborne floating settlements suggests a desire for societies with greater freedom from traditional government structures, allowing for individual and technological autonomy.
Individualism and Liberty:
As a techno-libertarian, Thiel connects technological advancement with personal freedom, and a utopian society would prioritize these individual liberties.
Disregard for Cautionary Tales:
Thiel's vision may involve pursuing innovation with less regard for potential costs or dangers, focusing instead on the benefits of progress.
Influence of Faith:
His Christian faith is a significant part of his worldview, which he integrates with his political and technological views, though his approach is unconventional, per The New York Times.


Vance definitely has empathy for the "less fortunate" in society but I would surmise he rejects generally accepted "progressive" solutions to societal problems, believing that people he grew up with were harmed by those. Whereas I don't think Trump cares about such matters.

Whether he'd be better or worse than Trump depends on your point of view. If you're a conservative Catholic Libertarian you'll probably love him.

EDIT he's a brilliant man. I caution against underestimating him.


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28 Aug 2025, 7:53 am

Cornflake wrote:
Tamaya wrote:
What word is P*i then? (I put the asterisk in myself).
There was no reason to do so because it's now censored automatically.
See my post a little earlier.

Rather than risk further offence by posting the word in a way that bypasses the auto-censor, here's a Wiki page explaining it.

Based partly on the method of de-fanging the raw word as described on that page, I've adjusted the censoring to replace it with "P-word".

There was a British comedian half a century ago named Spike Milligan one of whose stock characters was one named P-word Paddy. It was thought hilarious back then. Most British preferred that sort of humor to Monty Python at the time.


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28 Aug 2025, 7:54 am

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Aw another bloody school shooting

I'm sorry this has happened again
Apparently there have been 146 school shootings already this year. 8O
It's shocking and utterly indefensible - how is this acceptable and allowed to continue, year in year out?


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28 Aug 2025, 7:55 am

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In Tagalog it translates to "white" or "whiteness".
Which is more offensive?


P*to is just the name of the dessert in the Philippines. Completely inoffensive. Most are unaware of the meaning in Spanish. Which seems astonishing, given that the Philippines was a Spanish colony for hundreds of years. Spain really pushed Roman Catholicism, but not the language.


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28 Aug 2025, 7:58 am

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There was a British comedian half a century ago named Spike Milligan one of whose stock characters was one named P-word Paddy. It was thought hilarious back then. Most British preferred that sort of humor to Monty Python at the time.
Yes - some of the humor back then was toe-curling and awful.


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28 Aug 2025, 8:14 am

Cornflake wrote:
MaxE wrote:
There was a British comedian half a century ago named Spike Milligan one of whose stock characters was one named P-word Paddy. It was thought hilarious back then. Most British preferred that sort of humor to Monty Python at the time.
Yes - some of the humor back then was toe-curling and awful.

My dad thought Benny Hill was brilliant. You have to consider how people in that generation grew up though. When his mother left his father, she dumped him on her parents to raise. They used to dose him with whiskey when he was ill but otherwise never showed him a shred of what one might think of as love. Benny Hill made him laugh.


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