The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
I'm not sure there's much hypocrisy to the position of sovereignty should be respected, imposing regime change is rarely a good idea.
But, hey maybe you define hypocrisy differently.
Hey, you surely didn’t watching any Iranians who are directly attacking the Leftie hypocrisy; and explaining, with irrefutable proofs WHY they are hypocrites.
I disagree, their arguments aren't irrefutable, even if you're deeply sympathetic to them.
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
The Left is demanding international interference to stop the Gaza genocide; but when it comes to the Iranian people being slaughtered (death toll 12k+ so far) it is suddenly a matter of respecting sovereignty for you? The Iranian regime deserves to have sovereignty respected? Those who literally created proxy armies for themselves in Lebanon, Gaza and Yemen and order them to drag these countries to war every while, give me a break

. Iran is maybe the only nation on earth that almost beats the US in foreign interference; you can learn from them; they are masters in foreign dominion.
There's two strains of desiring international support for the Palestinians.
The first being within Palestine's borders, the second also adding that Israel's creation was illegitimate. Either way, their argument is based on Palestine's sovereignty being violated, not based on believing some deeply flawed nation should unilaterally act as the world police, but only when it suits their interests.
Saying America lacks the moral high-ground to act as the world police isn't the same as endorsing any given regime they might be seeking conflict with.
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Your moral compass is inconsistent - you stand with Gazans and call for full international support and pressure against Israel but when it comes to the Iranian people you find excuses - that’s the HYPOCRISY everyone of them is talking about; because doing so you are admitting the Democratic party narrative was wrong; even way back since Obama: the narrative that says that the Iranian regime can be negotiated and rationalized with (You had two presidents including him ever since, two full terms; you shall ask yourself why it took forever and never been closed during one of these two terms. Hint: the Iranian regime are pathologically irrational zealot liars, that’s why).
Obama's foreign policy was deeply flawed, just like every other American administration's. I'm not sure how the left bears responsibility for the failings of centrists though.
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Maybe you should start admitting that the Left isn’t infallible? Like seriously - admit that sometimes you make very poor and misinformed judgements, have double standards and double face at times in foreign matters, very fluid morality depending on the identity of the oppressor and victim. Just look in the mirror and admit it, it is a good therapy.
This would carry more weight if I had ever claimed the left was some monolith and infallible to begin with.
The left regularly splinters over major issues, even if you haven't ever paid close enough attention to notice.
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Anyway, your little opinion is insignificant- the Iranian people won’t listen to you; and yes, they hailing for Trump for his support.
Cool story bro. Your (and their) caricature of the left is equally insignificant and won't change anything or make Trump a less terrible leader. I understand why they're unconcerned with any bigger picture though, the Iranian regime is brutalizing them and that obviously will be a higher priority for them at the moment.
Personally, I don't think either Iran or the US are entitled to go meddling beyond their own borders.
Also, as much as I don't believe the US is entitled to engage in regime change anywhere, I'd rather they get bogged down in Iran than go invading Greenland or Canada given that the latter two have 'responsible government' and Iran most certainly does not.
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