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The few I mentioned killed like 100 and casualties were 300-400.

This "intercept" website is probably not Americans, or they would know the obvious.

Still -

Islamic terrorists have killed the most people (but only due to Fort Worth Texas KKK attack being stopped), Far-Right have committed the most attacks while not killing the same number of people. All this shows is that Islamic people are capable of killing more people in fewer attacks than the Far Right are capable of with a lot more.'

The right-wing - no matter what it is - isn't exactly known for their competency.

The reports aren't about the number of casualties - it's about the number of attacks. The two don't go together - Governmental Crime and Terrorism Reporting 101.

Ahh you might be surprised, I am not terrified by the sight of guns...they exist whatever. I suppose I would be more terrified by a madman, with a gun shooting up a large area. But what is all this talk of civil war anyways? I don't want any part of shooting my fellow citizens but if it really comes to that well I certainly am not going to lay down and die so I'd have to fight. I have shot a gun and was able to hit quite a few targets...the targets being the lights on an old string of Christmas lights, so quite small..this wasn't shooting plates on a log. So that was fun, not big on guns but it would seem its not impossible for me to hit a specific target.

A leftist citizens revolt, which most likey the pentagon is prepared for, would find themselves facing a huge highly trained military with its sate of the art mega-weapons including tanks, drones, blackhawks, fighter jets etc.

That's just the way it is.

It would come down to military. Since the military has a large conservative-right leaning element would enough of that element refuse orders to fire thier own type of people or even join the rebels?

There would be no winner. The first time around before WMD’s over 600,000 were killed. It is excrutioning for me to try and even think about the toll of a second civil war.

Just because many soldiers are conservative doesn’t mean they’d assist a small fraction of rednecks. We are talking about a small portion of the population trying to overtake the majority. That would be considered a coup. That few soldiers would ever defend. No doubt in my mind there are plans that have been set for a very long time about how to handle a potential coup should one ever come to pass no matter the wing.

Also reich wingers have threatened it long enough - led by the dangerous likes of Roger Stone - “if you impeach Trump we’ll...” “if you try to impeach Trump - we got guns!!” that no doubt all plans are already in place.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/ ... ent-242010

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-support ... 96c6f6763/



That said if you’re white/straight/Christian - you’re gonna be safe from that for the most part. The moment Trump leaves, no doubt about it, the moment the far right gets more dangerous than they already are. Hate crimes are already increasing against minorities with their savior in the white house - with him gone they’re going to want to retaliate and that will be against guys like me and TW1.

Due to statistics regarding the number of right-wing domestic terrorist attacks, I have no reason to doubt some are real; that said the FBI already know they pose a threat and have plans in place. So I wouldn’t necessarily call it a “war” than a string of attempted terrorist attacks and an increase in hate crimes.

As said, there’s too few of them for it to be a war. Now, on the other hand, the poor rising up to cause a war against the rich due to being fed up - that is more likely. That’s the war I am afraid of.

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The left seems desperate to be in absolute total control no matter what it takes. They will take over by force if necessary to be in total control of everything and everyone. But hey at least they're not fascist.

Then of course there are all the abandoned veterans, they know how to use guns to....I have met more than one screwed over veteran from the middle east conflict. One of them was certainly messed up, he accidently blew up his apartment trying to make hash, because he had something else cooking in a pressure cooker and thing interacted and gave him a bad situation. I mean he was not trying to do anything wrong pot was legal in colorado but he lost his home due to this incident..my brother had an apartment in the building and I was hanging out there but that guy stayed over for a bit to till he could figure out where to go. And it was sad like he was not a bad dude, and was not thinking about how enclosed the apartment was and so it was a total mistake what happened like he did not try to blow up the apartment, his hash just went wrong. He even got arrested for a while but then the cops could not find anything to charge someone with if they accidentally cause property damage due to trying to make hash, but of course the landlord did not want him to continue living there. As far as me and my brother know after he stayed in my brothers apartment for a bit he had some relatives or friends in another state he went to meet. But yeah like a lot of these people are kind of screwed up and don't know how to function in just normal living situations, so I mean me and my brother helped this guy as much as we could but....like he was kind of out there, like all the just normal life things were new to him.

Either way I bet a lot of these veterans don't care much for Trump who will just screw them over. I mean I see campains from charity groups trying to raise money for veterens...well why can't the government who sent them over there step up and give them some money for their sacrifices, life and limb that they have given. But no many of them would rather give themselves pay raises.

/\ And those that do care enough to go to war against the country for Trump over impeachment are in the vast minority.

May we see some Timothy McVeighs? No doubt, but most soldiers just aren’t that way.

As said, any threat they’ve made about a “civil war” or “insurrection” is just going to be terrorist attacks and an increase in hate crimes.

Don’t get me wrong, that’ll be a nightmare- but, it wouldn’t be a war, there’s just few people who support Trump.

The war they’re looking to start anyway isn’t really a “civil war” - conservatives vs liberals - it’s a “race war” that they’ve been threatening since at least the 60s. Could it happen? Possibly if the attacks are violent enough. But that alone would severely fracture the military and there too - I’m not afraid of their side since there’s few of them in comparison (most of the country is different minority groups; which puts them at a disadvantage because in this fabled “race war” it’s white/straight/Christians against literally everyone else).

As said there is a different war building though - the poor vs the rich. That’s the war that scares me.

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the rich always win if only because they out-think the poor. like Jay Gould said, "(he) could hire one half of the working class to kill off the other half." as pogo said, "we have met the enemy, and he is us."

Would quite like to see a state secede from the U.S

As a spectator sport, from afar, that would be hugely fascinating.

If any state was to secede, which is the most likely? (California?)

I hope it is the whole western seaboard. I so want for California, Oregon and Washington to join up with BC.

I think that's pretty much how the first American Civil War started. The South was a very poor part of the country and they felt that their economy was being threatened by the North. It really wasn't all about slavery like most people think it was there was a lot more to the war.

With all the tension in the air and a bad economy that doesn't seem to be getting better it has me worried because I feel like most wars usually start off that way. I mean we might even have a World War 3, you never know.

It was felt that the North was being arbitrary with the South in general.

Slavery was one of the economic mainstays of the South (yes, it was immoral!! !), providing consistent revenue. Sudden emancipation would have threatened that, and placed the South in a severe depression.

Perhaps, if the North offered some sort of "reparations" (I believe there were offers like that), then this would not have been such a hot-collar issue.

It won't be divided by states though.

The main areas where a war like this would break out would be starting in New York City, Los Angeles, and perhaps Washington D.C. Not against other states - but against people within their own states that they consider to be "better off." Then the inner-state war would spread from there, for example inspiring the people of Georgia to rise up against the rich people by them. Rather than states going to war, it'd be poor people attacking and killing anyone who owns "property."

It won't be exactly like this, but it does give a general notion (see from 3:29 onwards) :



As said, this is the war I'm (as well as fellow plutocrat friends of mine) are scared s**tless over.

There have been growing whispers ever since 2008 that have been building since then. Ironically many anti-fa and alt-right align with their hatred for the rich or "elite" just right now they're fighting and branding each other (which won't always be the case). With the possibility of another economic collapse that could be even worse - that would light the fire that is already there.

Historically, America wouldn't be the first country where the poor united and sparked an insurrection.

Here's history on two of them.

"Peasants Revolt," which occurred in England:

https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/medieval-england/peasants-revolt/

"French Revolution" which occurred in France (setting for 'A Tale of Two Cities' which inspired 'The Dark Knight Rises') :

http://www.softschools.com/facts/world_ ... acts/2206/

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