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Multiculturalism and freedom of expression topic

One of the great things about diversity is being able to voice opinions, even if those opinions are rather charged emotionally, and barely tow the line of civility.

I suppose it is always "better the devil(s) you know", and keeping an eye on said devil(s). In many countries, when destructive dissent is shoved underground, earthquakes result, and then tsunamis.

I wrote earlier that I agree that AG's idea of unworkable multicultural politics was not a good option. Politics is fragmented enough without disorder and chaos. The Canadian model is functioning and evolving. The European model is not, because the politics is fragmented, and because European society was never set up to absorb/understand diversity, multicultures and the land mass is simply too small. People need elbow room.

North America (Canada and the US) is the best option for those from other countries desiring a home where they feel safe, secure and free to be diverse within a political structure that respects their individuality and encourages different ideas within the framework of participatory democracy based on the premises of peace, order and good government.

Nope she's been here for quite a while.

Indeed, but typically only after they play the race/tolerance card. And then we are free to engage in a real discussion once we get rid of those PC barriers.



I am pointing out to you the differences between mulitculti in a country like England as opposed to a country like India. I never denied that extra-European areas weren't mulitcultural. And I would point out to you that extra-European areas are hardly free from ethnic strife. Only a strong central government in a place like India, propped up by billions of dollars in US aid, can play off ethnic groups against eachother and keep control. It is only the presence of strong central governments that keep different ethnic groups from tearing eachother apart. An immediate cause of WWI was the inability of the Hapsburgs to keep quiet and keep control all of the different subgroups in their empire. Whenever that vacuum of central authority vanishes, that is when the repressed hatreds surface. In the case of somewhere like Eastern Europe, often times that area was too fractured and divided for a strong central power ever to establish solid control, so ethnic wars went on for years between groups not strong enough to be eliminated but not strong enough to conquer and dominate either.



At eachother's throats............ Are you serious.



Its your own fault if you didn't take advantage of Sec-8 housing or the myriad of other wealth redistribution programs that the government offers in this country. Its not the fault of white people that blacks keep struggling. They struggle because they won't take responsibility for themselves and count on naive liberal whites to keep caring about them. I certainly don't care about helping. For 50 years, we gave you welfare, positive discrimination, and busing, to try and elevate you, but you clearly were only intent on milking us for every last pound of flesh. You ate from our right hand and turned around and bit our left hand. Well, white-America is tired of trying to help you or prop up your **** communities. Whatever debt we owed you, we paid in full and then some with 50 years of "Great Society" programs. Plus, we elected your pretty boy Obama, so all whites can't be that bad.

Shoot, we even rewrote our history to please you into this new "diversity history" in whitch every cowpoke's black cook gets his own paragraph on how he won the west. We tried bussing your kids out to our schools, but they didn't learn anything even though the liberals gave it their best effort to try and teach these loud incorrigibles. All y'all did was sell drugs and form gangs. Then, we tried to fix up your schools and we sent our teachers in there, but it was only a matter of months before those new schools were trashed and you drove out the white teachers. You all screwed over three generations of white kids in this country because we had to plummet our educational standards and not "leave you behind," all while white kids had to put up with your crap and your violence. It is the differential drop in the educational performance of blacks that is the reason that we are supposedly dumber than the Germans or Japanese. White kids are just fine.

Anyway, welfare doesn't make people rich........ It provides a dripping spigot that gives people just enough money for them to live at subsistence level. It turns them into lazy children dependent on state services and keeps them living in a hand-to-mouth existence. It creates feelings of anger, helplessness, and entitlement.




So what, we should just give you money because you are "po." It isn't wh****y's fault that you are unemployed are disgruntled. If you are, it is because you couldn't pick yourself up and go get a job, so instead you have to blame White America for all of your "struggles." White people shouldn't have to and aren't going to come clean up your "hood," and they won't hire lazy workers who steal or spend millions of dollars to build housing that you promptly destroy. We're not going to wipe your @$$ or come clean up your messes. We spent 30 years trying to "integrate" you, but then you said that you wanted to be separate. Fine. You can't advocate black supremacy and yet want White America to fund your indolence or expect them to keep trying to include you. Yeah, there is a Class inequity, but whites have already tried to correct it and it is your own fault if you keep on being "po." You can bet anything that white people are sick of footing the bill for all of your programs.




No contradiction here............ They should be able to get a job and get off the dole without having to be part of a quota. It really says something about the laziness of a culture and its people when they have to force people to hire them or the government is the only organization that will even consider hiring them, even if just to placate them so they don't go out and riot. There is a reason that whites don't hire certain groups of people(and if they do, they quickly provide cause for termination,) and it has nothing to do with base hatred of a race. If white people's possessions and property didn't magically grow legs and walk away when a minority was
around..................

They should get no services whatsoever beyond what a white person gets.





Well, if it would have been blacks in charge over whites for all of those years, you all would have given it to us 10X worse than we gave it to you. Do you really think that Shaka Zulu would have been gentle? No. If the whole slavery thing would have been reversed, blacks would have done much worse by whites than we did by them. We were generous enough even to grant freedom and then preferential discrimination.

Actually, more white slaves were taken from Europe between 1500-1800 than we ever took from Africa. All of those forgotten victims who died in an Algerian salt mine or a Tunisian galley. All of those Ukranian slaves that Ottoman raiders captured and sold in slave marts in the Middle East.

People who thought as me at least had the good sense to maintain their perrogatives. I tried to warn them not to give all of these minority groups too much power; It will come back to bite them in the @$$.




Now that is fascinating. You see, the only thing different between you and me is positioning. People who "thought as me" only had the good sense to maintain their personal perrogatives. They saw that giving up power to their rivals would only eventually lead to their annihilation. I have no doubt that if I had been born black, I would be a raging, Nation of Islam black panther. But no. You all would do no better by whites than we ever did by you. The ones perceived to be in the lower strata are always the innocent victims, yet, if blacks ran this country, they would probably see fit to exterminate whites, like they do now in South Africa. This is really a matter of historical winners vs. historical losers.

You all for the most part had no chance to "perpetuate any historical baggage." I guarantee you that black-Americans will certainly exact revenge on whites when they get enough power. I try and warn but it falls on deaf ears. Whites need to reassert themselves and band together. 30 years from now, we will see who perpetuates any new historical baggage.

The only way to stop this country from turning into Zimbabwae is to turn it into Yugoslavia first.

We realize that some racists are really freaking out about having a President that identifies as black. But your idea that we have to destroy the country to save it is half-baked treason. Take a xanax and chill, l'il Hitler! Things aren't as bad as your hallucinations indicate.