Why the drug war is a legitimate war against terrorism
Well since this conversation is more about me then the issue. I suspect that’s because you disagree and would rather focus the attention on me then the issue.
Screw loose is a terminology I use when exaggerated and clearly delusional things are said. It’s not a direct insult; it's a saying because the information was rhetoric filled and clearly anti-government. It’s typical of the paranoid delusional but I did not say that, I said screw loose, but still I did not say he has a screw loose or "you have a screw loose" to him. I made sure of it.
Sort of a phrase used that is political in contact as to counter what was said, I know he must listen or read that type of junk and might actually believe it. Perfectly within my rights to counter some of the ridiculous statements for a constructive conversation, which were not fact based. Fact was used but interpreted without balance, also he and I disagree on only certan things.
To think drugs should be legalized without doctors prescription to me is inane, having a screw loose. It’s like saying let’s allow everyone to allow guns in school, because its your right to bare arms and your right to protect yourself against others with guns. When society allows street drugs to be legalized such as M.J with how readily it can be produced in great amounts by an individual is the day I find another country to live in.
If you believe M.J should be legalized other then medical use from an authorized and qualifying doctor you have a screw loose. I could say your a crazy moron who has sold your soul out to a fictional devil as well as future generations.
The goal was to make sure his perspective like in any legitimate debate or discussions contain fact. It was concerning many topics in one, not the specific topic at hand.
So in other interpretations of trolling, I could say he was a troll. Its how stupid trolling policy is, it’s contradictive to freedom of expression which cannot really be disallowed and still said to be freedom.
As far as trolling yes I would fit my description because I include myself to be fair and balanced (I commonly change myself for self-improvement), but not in the harsher sense of trolling like calling him an insane loon. Trolling as a policy in my interpretations would end all of this nonsense and result in truly constructive conversation of balance in pure logic and facts. So it is only fair that I would describe myself.
I've been instigated in several posts with personal insults, character attacks and just out right disrespect since I posted here by a few.
You cannot expect me to just feel good about the people who have followed me around in several posts just starting conflict.
The previous poster before you if you notice his post in my other topic, The God Archetype was proper and constructive.
Also Screw Loose matches well with a character name in the book I am working on called The Evans Experiment, Jack Philips... It is a pun. Also jack as in a car jack, philips for a screw driver and screw driver for a wrestling move, also screw loose listen to me and I’ll make sure its screwed in, for proper and logical understandings, not delusional propagandas that make the good guys into bad guys.
Both times me being banned was for direct affiliations with the group owners.. Not my actions on forums..
I knew and interacted regularly with the owners of A.F.F and A.I. You have no idea... We will keep it at that because to explain it all would have to bring out personal facts about them I do not want to say. Besides it's no ones business, your using that to simply frame me as someone who intends trouble..
Some just hate me because I'm too good.. I practice being a model citizen, but I refuse to comb my hair.
The drug war supports terrorisme, and other illegal activities actually!
(sorry if this has already been said, I really do not have the time or energy to wade through the whole thread).
It keeps the prices incredibly high, and so makes it easy to make loads of money out of drugs by terrorists and (other) criminals.
Am I trolling Who cares I don't care though I don't troll in the end. Everybody that thinks whatever about any thing and yet has truly nothing to say for this is what this site is becoming with truly nothing to say or believe in. This site has become to Leftwing for it on good. I am getting tried of this site in more ways that I can see. Will this site yet growup in the end or not in the end. Be glad I am to nice for You all. Though this is why this site has become number two on My list in the end. Troll all You Want.
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Marijuana is not necessary for a life. Besides your whole point on legalizing marijuana being necessary to allow hemp to be grown for bio-mass ended up sort of wrong and seemed almost like you were trying to skew the facts/lie. My life is very fine without marijuana use.
I've seen how this stuff works for more than twenty years. The only thing that is going to allow people to grow large masses of marijuana for oil production will be total legalization. "They" will never allow a distinction to be made between industrial hemp and marijuana, so we might as well have blanket legalization, which I far prefer to being unable to run my car or heat my house. When it comes to being able to drive to work or heat my home, I don't care whether someone sneaks into the field at night and rolls a few leaves of pretty much worthless smoke. They'll try it a couple of times and go back to making their own, which will be much better than what I grow.
Mine is much better with it. You are unqualified to say whether yours would be better, as you have no experience of it and therefore lack any comprehension of what its actually like.
In any case, the human race was not genetically cloned from you. So your personal preferences have no legislative relevance. Perhaps you have projection issues.
I have already explained on the other thread;
"I do not see a clear-cut distinction between medical & non-medical use. This is a drug that can (certain strains) relieve stress, reduce the susceptability to certain cancers, and offer psychological therapeutic insights.
How many people in the modern world would NOT benefit from a little therapy, stress-relief or reduced cancer risk? (all medical issues)
Answer: None (that i know of)"
I have also specifically addressed the issue of cancer, but that hasnt stopped you bringing it back up again without any recognition of my contribution. twice.
There are/were people on this thread who actually have first hand experience of cannabis and have done balanced research over many years, You would do well to take this opportunity to listen to us. Otherwise the debate gets circular & theres no point continuing.
Who is "they"? Remnant, you mentioned a they when you typed out your post promoting total legalization. I have never seen nor have I heard of any "they". Certainly "they" would allow for a distinction between industrial hemp and marijuana if it meant that "they" would keep most of their power. Besides, the political problems that started the hemp ban were so long ago that nobody really knows about the deal and would really care about a non-drug. There are distinctions made in other countries than the US. Besides, I am certain that the biomass from marijuana would have to be processed for you to use it to heat your house anyway, putting a big chunk of biomass could never get a car to run.
The example of chocolate bon-bons is taking my argument to an extreme. Chocolate bon bons have no controversy. Also the negative effects of bon bons are unquestionably small in the greater scheme of things. Machinery can be operated under the influence of bon bons, pregnant women can eat bon bons with impunity, bon bons do not really affect the minds of those who consume them other than providing sugar which is beneficial and provided by a thousand other things, the only negative effect of bon bons is possibly due to the high caloric content however considering that fast food is a greater danger for the waistlines of most people in developed nations means that bon bons are somewhere near the bottom of the list of things to legislate against. However, I do enjoy fast food but if it would help our obesity figures I would support a ban because I do realize that fast food is unhealthy.
Right psych, I cannot determine what your life is like. You may feel better with your soma as you drug yourself with it. Soma does feel good, soma does bring pleasure. However, this does not mean that soma is a good thing. *Soma is the word I decided to use for marijuana in a few instances. It is a reference to a drug that was used in a book to make people content and wretched. The people in the book genuinely desired the drug even though I don't think it was physically addicting and would use it for pleasure. It was a dystopia novel.
Well, there is a distinct difference between medical and non-medical use. Medical use is when a drug is prescribed by a doctor of medicine or bought over the counter. Prescription drugs are used to end a problem or to pre-empt a problem and are only to be used if a doctor orders it. Over the counter drugs are weak drugs that are used by people to solve a problem that affects their daily living, not a psychological problem but a physical problem like an ache or allergies or something of that nature. These drugs are over the counter because they are considered relatively harmless, widely usable, and typically solve problems caused by daily living that are not considered worth going to a doctor for.
Marijuana is also a drug that can cause more problems with weight though too. It is being considered as a drug for AIDs sufferers but the only concern is that it will make the person fat unless they are forced to do exercise. Most 1st world countries have a problem with weight and marijuana use can make this worse. Stress is often a sign of problems anyway and to "stone" your way out of them could be a means of avoiding solving these problems. Besides we become stronger people by facing our problems and overcoming rather than by avoiding through the various means offered to us. Soma is a bad thing.
The use of marijuana to deal with cancer is medicinal marijuana. I don't consider the use of marijuana to try to prevent cancer to really be worth it from a medicinal point of view due to the psychological effects. Besides, marijuana does have the negative effect of causing a greater likelyhood of heart attack which probably compensates for the cancer problems considering that heart attack is becoming an increasing problem.
I do listen and I do respond. Perhaps I did not look at the entire thread in some instances because I did not want to read all this talk about "oh how I love my dope" but still. I do also come to different conclusions than you would even given some of the same information.
The point of chocolate bon-bons is that both chocolate and cannabis are psychotropics of similar nature, triggering a sense of well being through receptors which are built in to the human brain. Both are beneficial if used in moderation, yet either could be detrimintal if used to excess, but niether causes any direct significant damage.
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The amount of drugs of any form in chocolate is far less than the amount that people use in marijuana. I have never ever heard of anyone getting high off of chocolate but I have heard of people getting high off of marijuana. The 2 substances cannot be compared and there is no concern about operating machinery under the influence of chocolate or about pregnant women eating chocolate or about people getting high off of chocolate. People don't even eat chocolate for the drug content so much as they do for the sugar content. Even though they do both contain drugs then they are still incomparable because the drug content in chocolate is negligible when it comes to its overall effect. The only drugs in chocolate are a mild stimulant that has little to no effect on humans, caffeine which is in a lesser quantity than is present in many other products and it contains a few other drugs with funny long names but those haven't been proven to have any noticeable effects on people. So, chocolate is hardly a drug and the drug content of chocolate is ignored and ignorable by the majority of chocolate users.
chocolate bon bons are a type of fast-food. fast-food may not impair driving ability but it arguably kills millions of people through its physical effects, cannabis has killed noone through direct physical effects. ever.
This is what i meant by an 'authoritarian complex' - whenever a matter of definition crops up you immediately refer to US legislation. Your answer to everything seems to be control and legislation.
I think this approach is unhealthy and ultimately, impractical. Law making is a tool to be used sparingly and as a last resort, otherwise it ends up causing more trouble than it solves. Trying to patch over a multitude of problems with a superficial quick-fix does not address the underlying causes and lands you in an increasingly convoluted mess.
Ive never heard weight gain mentioned.
Using a drug with analytical & therapeutic effects to deal with problems isnt necessarily avoidant. It can temporarily alter the way you think, which allows you to find constructive solutions to problems. Sometimes personal dilemmas can be faced up to & resolved internally, as if you were attending a session with a trained therapist. So, you see it can potentially have an enormously positive benefit on someones life and actually make them a better person.
If it has (for instance) anti-depressant/manic/psychotic/anxiety properties, why treat it any differently to the prescription pills which toxify your liver and cause all sorts of unpleasant side-effects.
There is a clear multi-million corporate interest in marketing these artificial patented drugs, so please dont reply with a black/white legal reference, blindly trusting in the authorities to 'do the right thing'. That isnt how it works.
YOU dont consider it to be worth it because of the psychological effects (even though you dont even know what they actually are) thats your personal choice. I enjoy the psychological effects and find them occasionally helpful, so whats your problem with MY choice? Are you projecting your personal values onto other people?
Again, i have never seen any evidence for this so i cant take it at face value. Government agencies have spent a fortune trying in vain to find damning evidence on cannabis, and so far theyve come up with barely anything. (in fact the discovery that it has an anti-tumor effect came about when they were trying to prove the opposite. Further research in the area was promptly banned, and only picked up again decades later in other countries) If there was compelling evidence for what you say, you can be sure it would be heavily publicised.