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16 Oct 2009, 7:51 am

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As for my ear hair I burn it with a lighter every week.
Sign of a true man :D


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16 Oct 2009, 9:42 am

Ear-rationalizations topic

I have enjoyed most responses to this rather bizarre thread. And AG is still destroying reality!

but there is one point no one has mentioned. Are emotions always irrational.? They are certainly non-rational, compared with logic responses and pursuits, that many suppose are the realm of math and science, and of course, better, which is a preference, which is, in turn emotional (a choice). We use emotions all the time--we are just not always aware until the obvious happens (a meltdown).

There is nothing wrong with being emotional about a topic/subject. There is a time and a place for emotions. A leap of logic can break one's legs (a spin on Janissy's sig). Being overly emotional can result in negative consequences. How someone responds emotionally or logically is the key factor. And I myself am better in print, more relaxed, and able to see the larger picture. As a rule, I do not overreact here (at least I hope!).

One poster stated that women are more emotionally explosive. This is true verbally. As small children, boys are often punished for doing this or are called pansies or sissies. As parents, we have to teach our children from a young age that there are appropriate ways to voice dissent, without resorting to fists and screams. (Hey, if this were easy, the world would be an ideal place!)

The wise person, whether Aspie or not, learns when it is appropriate to be rational, to use common sense, and when to be emotional and logical. This is also the nobler and fairer way to be. 8)


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23 Oct 2009, 10:09 am

Irrational women don't have a period.
(sorry for the bad joke but i had to say it)



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23 Oct 2009, 1:52 pm

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Why are women so irrational, subjective and hyper emotional?
Is it nature or nurture?
I say its nature.


Who cares? They're nice to have sex with.


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24 Oct 2009, 8:31 am

If women were rational, they would not put children on this horrible planet.
That would be the end of the species, so nature created women the way they are.

Et Dieu crea la femme


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24 Oct 2009, 8:51 pm

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Feminists who accept that women think differently (a view I'm not saying is true) often argue that men are not more 'logical' in any sense that elevates logic as some special thing. Rather, feminists argue that the male sort of logic is the one we consider best because men have dominated intellectual discourse for so many years. However, female logic is equally valid and only not considered logic because of men have sexistly elevated their notion of logic as the one 'true' logic.

As someone who's deeply interested in philosophy and the nature of logic, I can certainly confirm that there is nothing 'true' about logic beyond it is merely the means that humans reason by. If it turns out women reason differently, then their means of doing logic is equally 'true' as mens.


Women are from Venus, Men are from Mars.

Very early civilisations tended to be matriarchial, until strict patriarchial ethnic/social groups took control, usually by violence. Much of "Man"-kind's history involved the subjugation of women.



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26 Oct 2009, 1:55 am

us men are just as batshit crazy as women are, were just raised to hide from it.. which actually in many cases just makes it worse... true story.



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30 Oct 2009, 9:56 pm

Ive seen that in a lot of men


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12 Nov 2009, 9:36 pm

Fbthew wrote:
Why are women so irrational, subjective and hyper emotional?
Is it nature or nurture?
I say its nature.


Have you stopped beating your wife?



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12 Nov 2009, 9:46 pm

showman616 wrote:
Fbthew wrote:
Why are women so irrational, subjective and hyper emotional?
Is it nature or nurture?
I say its nature.


Have you stopped beating your wife?


excellent observation, showman616!


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17 Nov 2009, 6:09 am

Ahaseurus2000 wrote:
oppositedirection wrote:
Feminists who accept that women think differently (a view I'm not saying is true) often argue that men are not more 'logical' in any sense that elevates logic as some special thing. Rather, feminists argue that the male sort of logic is the one we consider best because men have dominated intellectual discourse for so many years. However, female logic is equally valid and only not considered logic because of men have sexistly elevated their notion of logic as the one 'true' logic.

As someone who's deeply interested in philosophy and the nature of logic, I can certainly confirm that there is nothing 'true' about logic beyond it is merely the means that humans reason by. If it turns out women reason differently, then their means of doing logic is equally 'true' as mens.


Women are from Venus, Men are from Mars.

Very early civilisations tended to be matriarchial, until strict patriarchial ethnic/social groups took control, usually by violence. Much of "Man"-kind's history involved the subjugation of women.


Woman are from Earth.
Men are from Earth.
Deal with it.


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18 Nov 2009, 11:20 pm

"Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" was the most annoying book I have ever read.


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20 Nov 2009, 3:08 pm

I am a woman. I am a logical person, and I am an emotional person. Logic and emotion are not mutually exclusive. I believe there is a natural ebb and flow between these two ways of relating to the world and to other people.

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Why are women so irrational, subjective and hyper emotional?
Is it nature or nurture?
I say its nature.


To begin with, the first question is obviously loaded. I do not accept that all women are irrational and hyper emotional. I agree that all women are subjective because I think all people are subjective. Objectivity is a myth. People cannot take themselves out of the equation when they are thinking about or observing something. It just isn't possible. The other questions are irrelevant unless the first question is logically valid.

I think the differences between the sexes are far less important than the differences between individuals.

Generalizations about women or about men do more harm than good.