Israel threatens to wipe out Europe with nuclear bombs

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IRA bombers, ETA bombers and don't forget people like timothy McVeigh. Not only Muslims commit Terrorism.

Why don't you answer my questions instead of trying to change the subject. Maybe because you know the way of life of others might just be better than yours.



You know what's your problem ruveyn, you are filled with hate. I am totally opposed to what Israel does to the Palestinians, but I don't hate Jews. I've interacted with some in the past and with not a shred of hatred. I again do not agree with US policy, but I don't hate ordinary US citizens. I can understand you may feel hatred towards certain people, for whatever reason, but your hatred is blinding you into hating good people (who have nothing to do with those you hate) when you shouldn't. I hope and pray we all can live without this hate.

You still haven't quoted any scripture which you say shows that devout Muslims are violent.

Is the Islamic Information Centre (.co.uk) accurate?

From what i've read in the past years, Al Quaeda and most extremists do not follow the rules, as IIRC, there are a set numbers of pillars in Islam, and the only difference is that they've elevated jihad to become one as well.

That and, i've recently read in the Courrier International that France is turning more pro-Israel, some little girl at a school was reprimanded for wearing a t-shirt saying "Free Palestine". =/

In that same volume i've also heard that M. Netanyahou is planning to allow voting for foreign jews (such as in the U.S.A). And if i recall correctly, again, it said that doing so would lower the power of the Knesset... (I have very little knowledge about jewish terms, so if Ruveyn wants to enlighten us...)

Also, this is my own personnal opinion, but i think that the political instability of Iran and Iraq has pushed the citizenry into action (at least in their cities), as we've noticed that more and more take the democratic process seriously. =/ (Iraq's getting ready for their elections, which again, according to Courrier International is "on everyone's lips", and the past events in Iran shows us that whatever Mr. Amadhinejad is planning, there are people in his own country that do not agree with him. <.<)

There is no parts of the Quran or Hadith that promotes violence. What you have just read is an interpretation of how Hell will most likely be. There is no correlation between it and being devout and becoming violent.. As I said before devout Muslims are not prone to violence.

There is a time and place when war is necessary. But it's only a last resort. It's never a first resort. When an enemy has the desire to oppress and destroy the religion, war is necessary. If a country has the desire to wipe out the US, no one would be wrong in wanting them to fight back. But when Muslims are tortured and oppressed in their own land, and they fight back, they are extremists and their religion is hateful. In Muslim Spain, Muslims looked after the Jews. There was no conflict. Muslims had controlled Palestine for hundreds of years, and no conflict with Jews or Christians. Conflict only started after the formation of Israel. So for hundreds of years no one cared about devout Muslims being extremists and promoting violence. Why? Because no one showed any animosity to them. Israel is a Terrorist state and when Muslim fight back, they are extremists. It's simple, if you don't want Muslims on your back, don't jump on theirs in the first place. What do you expect. There is no nation in the world that would just sit back and let an opposing force destroy them without a fight.

Again realise that the Middle east only became a problem since the formation of Israel. For hundreds of years before that nothing went on.

(If you want to read about Islam, I would suggest one reads an English version of the Quraan and some simple texts to begin with. Don't read things like the above, because if you don't have sufficient understanding of the meanings behind things most people will jump to harsh conclusions too quickly.)

I guess I'll make this my last post on this subject, since it seems to only brew more division and hatred. Basically here's what is really going on in the world. You have superpowers who bully other nations, and expect them to do as they say, and if they don't, they are labeled with many bad labels.

Muslims who are being oppressed and whose countries are being invaded for no reason, basically don't have the right to fight back. If they do, they are extremists and follow a violent religion. Some people go to extreme measures to fight back and others sit and take the oppression. Basically it's a lose lose situation for them. These superpowers make sure that any rebellion towards their oppression is deemed wrong. They are in only for peace. Just as Iraq, Palestine and Afghanistan prove.

If any Middle Eastern or Muslim dislikes America, it's because America nosing about in their region has caused them untold suffering. I hope at least one person can see this.

As long as there are bullies, you are going to have victims who either fight back, or just take the harassment. The number who fight back is marginal compared to those who don't. Those who fight back, do so because of the position they are in, not because their religion is violent. If you were to oppress North Koreans and they decide to nuke you, it's not because North Koreans follow a violent religion, it's because you started a fight and it takes two to tango, as they say. If one person understands this, then I hope I have played some role in making the world a better place.

Thank you if you pay attention to my posts.

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I think Brazil could nuke the entire world, sometime in the future. They could aquire loads of intercontinental ballistic missiles, and just begin nuking away. These missiles could reach every major city on the planet, and its just a matter of time before Brazil launches them all. after aquiring them of course.

also...

i'd like to see israel try to "wipe out europe", as if europe would just sit there and let itself wipe out.
germans vs jews, anyone? :]