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04 Jun 2010, 6:36 am

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What does it mean "to believe in something"? It makes sense to accept possibilities but the idea of believing in something is of the idiotic caliber of religion.


Please, stop with the semantics crap. We all know what they meant.


Who is this "we all"? To believe in something is to be confident something exists. To be confident of the existence of aliens is delusion.


I don't see why it would be delusional. You mean with the number of stars we've seen with the naked eye alone, and the number of entire galaxies we've seen with the aid of technology, you mean to say it's delusional to be confident in the existence of extra terrestrials? To say you "know for a fact" they exist is one thing, but it's very reasonable to say you believe in them- one can figure that if it happened here, why not elsewhere? And comparing the belief in extra terrestrials to religion... please. You sound like the Evangelicals that scoff at carbon dating, since, according to them, you can't prove it beyond any doubt, and therefore, shouldn't place any stock in it.


Ahaa! Then we are down to the pink unicorn business. On the same basis with all those planets you then must be confident one of them is full of pink unicorns.

I think that those pink unicorns would be an example of extraterrestrials, if this thread is still using the same terms as last time I posted. "Pink unicorns" is more specific than "extraterrestrials", though.


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04 Jun 2010, 7:05 am

Sand wrote:
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Sand wrote:
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What does it mean "to believe in something"? It makes sense to accept possibilities but the idea of believing in something is of the idiotic caliber of religion.


Please, stop with the semantics crap. We all know what they meant.


Who is this "we all"? To believe in something is to be confident something exists. To be confident of the existence of aliens is delusion.


I don't see why it would be delusional. You mean with the number of stars we've seen with the naked eye alone, and the number of entire galaxies we've seen with the aid of technology, you mean to say it's delusional to be confident in the existence of extra terrestrials? To say you "know for a fact" they exist is one thing, but it's very reasonable to say you believe in them- one can figure that if it happened here, why not elsewhere? And comparing the belief in extra terrestrials to religion... please. You sound like the Evangelicals that scoff at carbon dating, since, according to them, you can't prove it beyond any doubt, and therefore, shouldn't place any stock in it.


Ahaa! Then we are down to the pink unicorn business. On the same basis with all those planets you then must be confident one of them is full of pink unicorns.


...either you're on a level that's so beyond me I simply have no hope of understanding you -yeah right- or you're simply saying something non sequiter for the sake of having the last word. There may be a planet full of pink Unicorns, but that's beside the point. Just because I believe there's something out there that's alive yet not terrestrial doesn't mean I know what it looks like. I'm also confident there are aquatic creatures that we have yet to see. Don't go and tell me I must therefore believe in mermaids.



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04 Jun 2010, 7:16 am

CaptainTrips222 wrote:
Sand wrote:
CaptainTrips222 wrote:
Sand wrote:
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What does it mean "to believe in something"? It makes sense to accept possibilities but the idea of believing in something is of the idiotic caliber of religion.


Please, stop with the semantics crap. We all know what they meant.


Who is this "we all"? To believe in something is to be confident something exists. To be confident of the existence of aliens is delusion.


I don't see why it would be delusional. You mean with the number of stars we've seen with the naked eye alone, and the number of entire galaxies we've seen with the aid of technology, you mean to say it's delusional to be confident in the existence of extra terrestrials? To say you "know for a fact" they exist is one thing, but it's very reasonable to say you believe in them- one can figure that if it happened here, why not elsewhere? And comparing the belief in extra terrestrials to religion... please. You sound like the Evangelicals that scoff at carbon dating, since, according to them, you can't prove it beyond any doubt, and therefore, shouldn't place any stock in it.


I am merely extrapolating from your general thesis that a multiplicity of planets indicates security in believing whatever you choose exists on them. Perhaps I am being too cautious in waiting for evidence to secure belief.

Ahaa! Then we are down to the pink unicorn business. On the same basis with all those planets you then must be confident one of them is full of pink unicorns.


...either you're on a level that's so beyond me I simply have no hope of understanding you -yeah right- or you're simply saying something non sequiter for the sake of having the last word. There may be a planet full of pink Unicorns, but that's beside the point. Just because I believe there's something out there that's alive yet not terrestrial doesn't mean I know what it looks like. I'm also confident there are aquatic creatures that we have yet to see. Don't go and tell me I must therefore believe in mermaids.



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04 Jun 2010, 8:20 am

Alien anal probes. Fun or good?

You decide.



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04 Jun 2010, 9:04 am

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Alien anal probes. Fun or good?

You decide.


Depends upon your sexual orientation, I assume.



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05 Jun 2010, 9:21 am

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Alien anal probes. Fun or good?

You decide.


Depends upon your sexual orientation, I assume.


Hehe this is funny.

When I was a kid I used to think about E.T. life, space alot. Thats why I dont think about those anymore, cuz I ve done enough. I suggest you to forget about it as well, until "new s**t comes to life", which may not happen in your lifetime.



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06 Jun 2010, 12:08 am

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Alien anal probes. Fun or good?

You decide.


Depends upon your sexual orientation, I assume.


Hehe this is funny.

When I was a kid I used to think about E.T. life, space alot. Thats why I dont think about those anymore, cuz I ve done enough. I suggest you to forget about it as well, until "new sh** comes to life", which may not happen in your lifetime.


It's amusing to ponder. It gets weird when these zealous nut jobs call in to the radio stations with their top secret information on how our appliances came from alien technology.



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06 Jun 2010, 1:41 am

CaptainTrips222 wrote:
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Sand wrote:
mjs82 wrote:
Alien anal probes. Fun or good?

You decide.


Depends upon your sexual orientation, I assume.


Hehe this is funny.

When I was a kid I used to think about E.T. life, space alot. Thats why I dont think about those anymore, cuz I ve done enough. I suggest you to forget about it as well, until "new sh** comes to life", which may not happen in your lifetime.


It's amusing to ponder. It gets weird when these zealous nut jobs call in to the radio stations with their top secret information on how our appliances came from alien technology.


At latest information the Chinese and Japanese are aliens.



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06 Jun 2010, 2:25 am

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At latest information the Chinese and Japanese are aliens.


Look at the eyes! Look at the eyes!


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06 Jun 2010, 2:46 am

Sand wrote:
CaptainTrips222 wrote:
decoder wrote:
Sand wrote:
mjs82 wrote:
Alien anal probes. Fun or good?

You decide.


Depends upon your sexual orientation, I assume.


Hehe this is funny.

When I was a kid I used to think about E.T. life, space alot. Thats why I dont think about those anymore, cuz I ve done enough. I suggest you to forget about it as well, until "new sh** comes to life", which may not happen in your lifetime.


It's amusing to ponder. It gets weird when these zealous nut jobs call in to the radio stations with their top secret information on how our appliances came from alien technology.


At latest information the Chinese and Japanese are aliens.


Depends. The stealth bomber was developed in the US, so the aliens are American also.



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06 Jun 2010, 3:27 am

CaptainTrips222 wrote:
Sand wrote:
CaptainTrips222 wrote:
decoder wrote:
Sand wrote:
mjs82 wrote:
Alien anal probes. Fun or good?

You decide.


Depends upon your sexual orientation, I assume.


Hehe this is funny.

When I was a kid I used to think about E.T. life, space alot. Thats why I dont think about those anymore, cuz I ve done enough. I suggest you to forget about it as well, until "new sh** comes to life", which may not happen in your lifetime.


It's amusing to ponder. It gets weird when these zealous nut jobs call in to the radio stations with their top secret information on how our appliances came from alien technology.


At latest information the Chinese and Japanese are aliens.


Depends. The stealth bomber was developed in the US, so the aliens are American also.


Unfortunately the stealth bomber does not incorporate unknowable technology. You might as well claim the bicycle is of alien origin.



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06 Jun 2010, 5:32 am

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Unfortunately the stealth bomber does not incorporate unknowable technology. You might as well claim the bicycle is of alien origin.


Everyone knows that Velcro (tm) is not of earthly origin. Where in nature does Velcro occur

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06 Jun 2010, 7:02 am

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Unfortunately the stealth bomber does not incorporate unknowable technology. You might as well claim the bicycle is of alien origin.


Everyone knows that Velcro (tm) is not of earthly origin. Where in nature does Velcro occur

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Yes indeed.
The Germans invented flying saucers during WW2.

Then we gained more Alien technology from crashed saucers.

We know how to make anti-gravity saucers but we keep spending billions of dollars on stupid jets just to hide the fact that we have anti-gravity technology.

Yeah....... right..... sure.



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06 Jun 2010, 7:13 am

Wombat wrote:
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Unfortunately the stealth bomber does not incorporate unknowable technology. You might as well claim the bicycle is of alien origin.


Everyone knows that Velcro (tm) is not of earthly origin. Where in nature does Velcro occur

ruveyn


Yes indeed.
The Germans invented flying saucers during WW2.

Then we gained more Alien technology from crashed saucers.

We know how to make anti-gravity saucers but we keep spending billions of dollars on stupid jets just to hide the fact that we have anti-gravity technology.

Yeah....... right..... sure.


It's obvious from the behavior of the US government that there is no gravity there whatsoever.



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06 Jun 2010, 9:38 am

SETI found nothing.
Either Extraterrestrials (life as we recognise it) do not exist, are too far away or have evaded our perception perfectly.
This unfalisiability proves nothing, and furthermore suggests just that.
All alien encounters are identical to demon enounters of previous centuries, and depend entirely on the claimant/"abductee"'s experience (television shows, books, culture).
I am highly skeptical of this, yet another "man in the sky".

Such material is speculative fiction until actual evidence is provided to support it.

And Sand you won't live for very long if you reveal any more about the pink unicorn project :P



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06 Jun 2010, 10:02 am

Asmodeus wrote:
SETI found nothing.
Either Extraterrestrials (life as we recognise it) do not exist, are too far away or have evaded our perception perfectly.
This unfalisiability proves nothing, and furthermore suggests just that.
All alien encounters are identical to demon enounters of previous centuries, and depend entirely on the claimant/"abductee"'s experience (television shows, books, culture).
I am highly skeptical of this, yet another "man in the sky".

Such material is speculative fiction until actual evidence is provided to support it.

And Sand you won't live for very long if you reveal any more about the pink unicorn project :P


Having ridden a pink unicorn in my early youth in the secret mountains beyond the lost horizon in Tibet I am satisfied about their existence. I haven't long to live in any case so who gives a flying fart at the Moon?



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