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29 Sep 2010, 12:07 am
lostonearth35 wrote:
It's plain to see that people will never learn to live in peaceful co-existence. 
Peaceful coexistence is impossible as long as there are people out there who are somehow able to justify the slaughtering of "infidels". If they want to put down their swords, we'll put down our own. But as long as they continue to make themselves into a threat, there can be no peace. If we put down our own, they will continue to kill in the name of their god. If they put down theirs, then there is no need to fight.
29 Sep 2010, 12:25 am
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
It's plain to see that people will never learn to live in peaceful co-existence.
Peaceful coexistence is impossible as long as there are people out there who are somehow able to justify the slaughtering of "infidels". If they want to put down their swords, we'll put down our own. But as long as they continue to make themselves into a threat, there can be no peace. If we put down our own, they will continue to kill in the name of their god. If they put down theirs, then there is no need to fight.
There is no denial of the Muslim concept that unbelievers must be punished. But Muslim societies have nevertheless existed where people of different beliefs were tolerated and accepted so it is evident that fanatics may not be the basic cause of the conflicts.. To assume that the present Middle East conflicts are based on religion alone is exceedingly naive and neglectful of the realities.
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29 Sep 2010, 1:02 am
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
It's plain to see that people will never learn to live in peaceful co-existence.
Peaceful coexistence is impossible as long as there are people out there who are somehow able to justify the slaughtering of "infidels". If they want to put down their swords, we'll put down our own. But as long as they continue to make themselves into a threat, there can be no peace. If we put down our own, they will continue to kill in the name of their god. If they put down theirs, then there is no need to fight.
There is no denial of the Muslim concept that unbelievers must be punished. But Muslim societies have nevertheless existed where people of different beliefs were tolerated and accepted so it is evident that fanatics may not be the basic cause of the conflicts.. To assume that the present Middle East conflicts are based on religion alone is exceedingly naive and neglectful of the realities.
To assume that most of the conflicts in the middleeast have nothing to do with Islam would be naive also. There have always been wars regarding economic this or power and control that, but since Medina onward there has been religious undertones to the violence of the region. The Imperialism of Babylon, Persia, Macedon, and Rome have nothing to compare with in terms of zeal as some of the fanatics, or "extremists" if you prefer, present. What is worse for the region is when those fanatics are placed in control of a nation.
29 Sep 2010, 2:57 am
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
It's plain to see that people will never learn to live in peaceful co-existence.
Peaceful coexistence is impossible as long as there are people out there who are somehow able to justify the slaughtering of "infidels". If they want to put down their swords, we'll put down our own. But as long as they continue to make themselves into a threat, there can be no peace. If we put down our own, they will continue to kill in the name of their god. If they put down theirs, then there is no need to fight.
There is no denial of the Muslim concept that unbelievers must be punished. But Muslim societies have nevertheless existed where people of different beliefs were tolerated and accepted so it is evident that fanatics may not be the basic cause of the conflicts.. To assume that the present Middle East conflicts are based on religion alone is exceedingly naive and neglectful of the realities.
To assume that most of the conflicts in the middleeast have nothing to do with Islam would be naive also. There have always been wars regarding economic this or power and control that, but since Medina onward there has been religious undertones to the violence of the region. The Imperialism of Babylon, Persia, Macedon, and Rome have nothing to compare with in terms of zeal as some of the fanatics, or "extremists" if you prefer, present. What is worse for the region is when those fanatics are placed in control of a nation.
The ferocities in Israel are driven by the voracious eagerness for expansion underlined by the vile treatment of the original inhabitants. Afghanistan and Iraq are neck deep in control of the massive oil deposits.. The rest is baloney.
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29 Sep 2010, 1:15 pm
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
It's plain to see that people will never learn to live in peaceful co-existence.
Peaceful coexistence is impossible as long as there are people out there who are somehow able to justify the slaughtering of "infidels". If they want to put down their swords, we'll put down our own. But as long as they continue to make themselves into a threat, there can be no peace. If we put down our own, they will continue to kill in the name of their god. If they put down theirs, then there is no need to fight.
There is no denial of the Muslim concept that unbelievers must be punished. But Muslim societies have nevertheless existed where people of different beliefs were tolerated and accepted so it is evident that fanatics may not be the basic cause of the conflicts.. To assume that the present Middle East conflicts are based on religion alone is exceedingly naive and neglectful of the realities.
To assume that most of the conflicts in the middleeast have nothing to do with Islam would be naive also. There have always been wars regarding economic this or power and control that, but since Medina onward there has been religious undertones to the violence of the region. The Imperialism of Babylon, Persia, Macedon, and Rome have nothing to compare with in terms of zeal as some of the fanatics, or "extremists" if you prefer, present. What is worse for the region is when those fanatics are placed in control of a nation.
The ferocities in Israel are driven by the voracious eagerness for expansion underlined by the vile treatment of the original inhabitants. Afghanistan and Iraq are neck deep in control of the massive oil deposits.. The rest is baloney.
If Israel really wanted to expand and kill off the Syrian populace of Gaza, it could easily be done in a single day.
29 Sep 2010, 4:05 pm
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29 Sep 2010, 5:11 pm
29 Sep 2010, 6:45 pm
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
It's plain to see that people will never learn to live in peaceful co-existence.
Peaceful coexistence is impossible as long as there are people out there who are somehow able to justify the slaughtering of "infidels". If they want to put down their swords, we'll put down our own. But as long as they continue to make themselves into a threat, there can be no peace. If we put down our own, they will continue to kill in the name of their god. If they put down theirs, then there is no need to fight.
There is no denial of the Muslim concept that unbelievers must be punished. But Muslim societies have nevertheless existed where people of different beliefs were tolerated and accepted so it is evident that fanatics may not be the basic cause of the conflicts.. To assume that the present Middle East conflicts are based on religion alone is exceedingly naive and neglectful of the realities.
To assume that most of the conflicts in the middleeast have nothing to do with Islam would be naive also. There have always been wars regarding economic this or power and control that, but since Medina onward there has been religious undertones to the violence of the region. The Imperialism of Babylon, Persia, Macedon, and Rome have nothing to compare with in terms of zeal as some of the fanatics, or "extremists" if you prefer, present. What is worse for the region is when those fanatics are placed in control of a nation.
The ferocities in Israel are driven by the voracious eagerness for expansion underlined by the vile treatment of the original inhabitants. Afghanistan and Iraq are neck deep in control of the massive oil deposits.. The rest is baloney.
If Israel really wanted to expand and kill off the Syrian populace of Gaza, it could easily be done in a single day.
The labeling of the Palestinians in Gaza as Syrians is rather indicative of a rather peculiar mindset indeed.
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29 Sep 2010, 7:07 pm
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
It's plain to see that people will never learn to live in peaceful co-existence.
Peaceful coexistence is impossible as long as there are people out there who are somehow able to justify the slaughtering of "infidels". If they want to put down their swords, we'll put down our own. But as long as they continue to make themselves into a threat, there can be no peace. If we put down our own, they will continue to kill in the name of their god. If they put down theirs, then there is no need to fight.
There is no denial of the Muslim concept that unbelievers must be punished. But Muslim societies have nevertheless existed where people of different beliefs were tolerated and accepted so it is evident that fanatics may not be the basic cause of the conflicts.. To assume that the present Middle East conflicts are based on religion alone is exceedingly naive and neglectful of the realities.
To assume that most of the conflicts in the middleeast have nothing to do with Islam would be naive also. There have always been wars regarding economic this or power and control that, but since Medina onward there has been religious undertones to the violence of the region. The Imperialism of Babylon, Persia, Macedon, and Rome have nothing to compare with in terms of zeal as some of the fanatics, or "extremists" if you prefer, present. What is worse for the region is when those fanatics are placed in control of a nation.
The ferocities in Israel are driven by the voracious eagerness for expansion underlined by the vile treatment of the original inhabitants. Afghanistan and Iraq are neck deep in control of the massive oil deposits.. The rest is baloney.
If Israel really wanted to expand and kill off the Syrian populace of Gaza, it could easily be done in a single day.
The labeling of the Palestinians in Gaza as Syrians is rather indicative of a rather peculiar mindset indeed.
Such as, say, history. Yeah.
29 Sep 2010, 7:26 pm
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29 Sep 2010, 7:28 pm
Cyanide wrote:
Humans will never have a cohesive "global community", because human "evolution" has largely favored these types of people.
1. Violent, gullible zealots (especially the ones who spreaded the Abrahamic religions)
2. Marauding, bloodthirsty, rapist warriors (European pirates, Vikings, Huns, and dominant tribes in Africa and the Americas)
3. Sociopaths
1. Violent, gullible zealots (especially the ones who spreaded the Abrahamic religions)
2. Marauding, bloodthirsty, rapist warriors (European pirates, Vikings, Huns, and dominant tribes in Africa and the Americas)
3. Sociopaths
So, we have Christians, Muslims, drunks, pagans, and Atheists. They are to blame. Let's kill them all.
(Not seriously, though I know some people are dumb enough to believe so anyway.)
29 Sep 2010, 7:59 pm
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
It's plain to see that people will never learn to live in peaceful co-existence.
Peaceful coexistence is impossible as long as there are people out there who are somehow able to justify the slaughtering of "infidels". If they want to put down their swords, we'll put down our own. But as long as they continue to make themselves into a threat, there can be no peace. If we put down our own, they will continue to kill in the name of their god. If they put down theirs, then there is no need to fight.
There is no denial of the Muslim concept that unbelievers must be punished. But Muslim societies have nevertheless existed where people of different beliefs were tolerated and accepted so it is evident that fanatics may not be the basic cause of the conflicts.. To assume that the present Middle East conflicts are based on religion alone is exceedingly naive and neglectful of the realities.
To assume that most of the conflicts in the middleeast have nothing to do with Islam would be naive also. There have always been wars regarding economic this or power and control that, but since Medina onward there has been religious undertones to the violence of the region. The Imperialism of Babylon, Persia, Macedon, and Rome have nothing to compare with in terms of zeal as some of the fanatics, or "extremists" if you prefer, present. What is worse for the region is when those fanatics are placed in control of a nation.
The ferocities in Israel are driven by the voracious eagerness for expansion underlined by the vile treatment of the original inhabitants. Afghanistan and Iraq are neck deep in control of the massive oil deposits.. The rest is baloney.
If Israel really wanted to expand and kill off the Syrian populace of Gaza, it could easily be done in a single day.
The labeling of the Palestinians in Gaza as Syrians is rather indicative of a rather peculiar mindset indeed.
Such as, say, history. Yeah.
And by history I might identify you as Cromagnon.
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29 Sep 2010, 8:00 pm
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Sand wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
It's plain to see that people will never learn to live in peaceful co-existence.
Peaceful coexistence is impossible as long as there are people out there who are somehow able to justify the slaughtering of "infidels". If they want to put down their swords, we'll put down our own. But as long as they continue to make themselves into a threat, there can be no peace. If we put down our own, they will continue to kill in the name of their god. If they put down theirs, then there is no need to fight.
There is no denial of the Muslim concept that unbelievers must be punished. But Muslim societies have nevertheless existed where people of different beliefs were tolerated and accepted so it is evident that fanatics may not be the basic cause of the conflicts.. To assume that the present Middle East conflicts are based on religion alone is exceedingly naive and neglectful of the realities.
To assume that most of the conflicts in the middleeast have nothing to do with Islam would be naive also. There have always been wars regarding economic this or power and control that, but since Medina onward there has been religious undertones to the violence of the region. The Imperialism of Babylon, Persia, Macedon, and Rome have nothing to compare with in terms of zeal as some of the fanatics, or "extremists" if you prefer, present. What is worse for the region is when those fanatics are placed in control of a nation.
The ferocities in Israel are driven by the voracious eagerness for expansion underlined by the vile treatment of the original inhabitants. Afghanistan and Iraq are neck deep in control of the massive oil deposits.. The rest is baloney.
If Israel really wanted to expand and kill off the Syrian populace of Gaza, it could easily be done in a single day.
The labeling of the Palestinians in Gaza as Syrians is rather indicative of a rather peculiar mindset indeed.
Such as, say, history. Yeah.
And by history I might identify you as Cromagnon.
And by avatar I might identify you as a rodent.
