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07 Feb 2007, 10:23 pm

the damage done to the pentagon wasnt of a plane,thats clear,the rest of the no-plane theories im not sure yet,but i know it was 100% inside job.

911 mysteries

a good film about 911.


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07 Feb 2007, 10:34 pm

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the damage done to the pentagon wasnt of a plane,thats clear,the rest of the no-plane theories im not sure yet,but i know it was 100% inside job.


sorry for that edit, i didnt realise 2 people had already posted!

On the whatreallyhappened link i gave, scroll down and youll see a cool video of a jet plane being flown into a concrete wall, almost the entire plane vapourises - it literally vanishes into thin air!



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07 Feb 2007, 10:40 pm

another thing,for a honest individual with some common sence,looking at footage of the towers falling down and wtc7 without any sound at all,u can tell its a controlled demolition,the thing is some people need lots of reasurence to believe something and are harder to get into accepting what their self(or conscience) is telling them,some so hard they never get it,but u want to know if its an inside job ull find it, loose change its not the representative of those who want to expose 911.
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09 Feb 2007, 10:48 pm

'could be, but I will tell you this: The evidence of set charges (impolsion) as seen as jets (plumes) of debris exploding from floors below the collapsing structure is probably a bogus assessment. More likely is the simple fact that the collapsing floors constitute a large piston compressing a lot of air in the space below the current level of collapse.
this would be enough to shatter windows and blow debris out of the building.



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11 Feb 2007, 1:04 am

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'could be, but I will tell you this: The evidence of set charges (impolsion) as seen as jets (plumes) of debris exploding from floors below the collapsing structure is probably a bogus assessment. More likely is the simple fact that the collapsing floors constitute a large piston compressing a lot of air in the space below the current level of collapse.
this would be enough to shatter windows and blow debris out of the building.


steel reinforced building,they never fall.bring me a video of one of them doing that,or just a simple building,the dont have that pancake theory u heard nutbag,plus u should check how the twin towers were built and youll see the inner structure is massive,other buildings have burned for 24 hours max and the burn till all you see its the framing but never collapse.

WTC7 thats building didnt get hit by a plane and it felt straight down,here a video,check it out and listen to what the reporter sais,the "clap of thunder noise" a signature noise for controlled demolition blasts.and the shokwave through the building.weird right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qWFVzBdM5s


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11 Feb 2007, 3:54 am

The reason we have no other videos of buildings of that size collapsing is we don't intentionally ram jets loaded with some of the most explosive stuff known to man in them. The Towers collapsed because the top structures melted - few things can withstand the heat of jet fuel burning that are not especially made to survive it.

Besides, saying it was a planned government attack implies the government is full of intelligent people. This can easily be disproved by taking a casual look at the president and his cabinet.


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11 Feb 2007, 4:51 am

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The reason we have no other videos of buildings of that size collapsing is we don't intentionally ram jets loaded with some of the most explosive stuff known to man in them. The Towers collapsed because the top structures melted - few things can withstand the heat of jet fuel burning that are not especially made to survive it.

Besides, saying it was a planned government attack implies the government is full of intelligent people. This can easily be disproved by taking a casual look at the president and his cabinet.


aha! u felt for it,u know their tricks are working in some of the citizens,bush is nothing but a puppet of the shadow government,the royal families controlling the banks/currency,he himself wasnt the master mind behind any of his choices,they work in a team and have the dumbest as their representative to make them look simple.
its not the usa government,its a portion of it,which is becoming bigger because of oligarchy(like im your friend/family so just for that u get me in politics because of it)

check the evidence,most of all u didnt check the video of WTC7 NO PLANE HIT IT AT ALL AND IT FELT STRIGHT DOWN,please look at the video and reply again,remember that u can be wrong like u can be right.

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11 Feb 2007, 5:14 am

I'll check when you learn how to type properly.

Besides, the temperature at which steel melts has been around for years. It's not like you can bribe the laws of physics into changing. I've seen the evidence before and it was all nugatory and easily disproved.


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11 Feb 2007, 5:24 am

Bin Laden himself explained how an intense fire caused the steel to weaken.

Then one floor falls its a domino effect after that.

The strength of materials is less as the temperature rises. I have heated ball bearing steel (51200) in a propane furnace hot enough to easily bend and beat flat with a hammer. 25000 gallon of jet fuel makes a very large fire.



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11 Feb 2007, 5:31 am

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Bin Laden himself explained how an intense fire caused the steel to weaken.

Then one floor falls its a domino effect after that.

The strength of materials is less as the temperature rises. I have heated ball bearing steel (51200) in a propane furnace hot enough to easily bend and beat flat with a hammer. 25000 gallon of jet fuel makes a very large fire.


And a very hot one.

It reaches flash point at a meer 38 C and burns at 380-980 C depending on the fuel.


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11 Feb 2007, 6:43 am

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Bin Laden himself explained how an intense fire caused the steel to weaken.


he did? this seems rather difficult for me to believe somehow...


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11 Feb 2007, 12:59 pm

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TheMachine1 wrote:
Bin Laden himself explained how an intense fire caused the steel to weaken.


he did? this seems rather difficult for me to believe somehow...


He never admitted involvement in 911. But he was a building contractor and he was explaining how the building collapsed. I will try to find were I heard the quote from. It
was certainly on TV news many years ago.



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11 Feb 2007, 3:07 pm

Flagg wrote:
I'll check when you learn how to type properly.

Besides, the temperature at which steel melts has been around for years. It's not like you can bribe the laws of physics into changing. I've seen the evidence before and it was all nugatory and easily disproved.


look at you,attacking my english,it is not my frist language so dont expect perfectness,after all u can get what im saying.
you are a coward,i bet in my face u woulnd say that,and ignoring the tape of wtc7 that i show which shows evidence of how it fell,and still wasnt hit by a plane.

your immaturity made me mad,how of a coward can u be to attack me personally when im showing evidence,u are most likely racist because u cant tolerate differences,but thats just a theory im talking about u know the fact.

dont be scared to check the tape.even if i dont learn how to type



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11 Feb 2007, 4:56 pm

I STRONGLY urge the purchasing of Popular Mechanic's book on the "Debunking of 9/11" myths. Furthmore, I urge anyone with a good modem connection to look a these two links that smash and expose conspiracy propagandists for what they are. Please go to:

"Screw Loose Change"
-This video takes the false claims made in the "documentary" Loose Change, in detail, and answers them. The original website may be found here (link)

(Note: the first video has some graphic footage beyond that which was seen in the 9/11 attack)

"Screw 9/11 Mysterious"
-This video answers the false charges made in "9/11 Mysterious" and provides some rather startling evidence of the reality of the situation.

I urge those who are convinced that 9/11 was a government plot to view these two videos. You have nothing to lose.



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11 Feb 2007, 5:32 pm

ive checked it,they dont make sense,i dont need anyone telling me what to think,despite of all the 911 videos u can know what happened using a little common sense and know how history happened before and what has 911 caused for the neo cons.no doubts here,could show evidence for days,this whole thing is an inside job and im not scared of it.
and after all,why should people would even dare to say its an inside job? because there are so much holes in the story it looks suspicious.

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11 Feb 2007, 5:44 pm

Just like the guys who believe in ESP.....

Whenever a challenge disproves it they make up a new property for it that makes it immune to that test.

Inability to disprove is not proof.


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