Ethics av veganism

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Food is a drug to some people. People eating high amounts of fast food with loads of bad fats and loaded with MSG (monosodium glutomate) really can create a physical addiction.

I really disagree with whoever said seeds were crap compared to fish oil. Omega's are only thing, but seeds, chia in particular, is a super food if you ask me. Sorry if I being a typical vegan hippie or anything.

http://www.pforlife.com/articles/chia.html

there are multiple diseases humans have that could be transmitted and is illegal in more than half the world. think about that.

What I really do not like is the fact that the water it takes to produce meat could be better spent giving people dying from thirst in third world countries.
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Occasional consumers of meat are not creating that big a difference, but the people who eat it on a daily basis and are aware of this are being extremely selfish,

Since I mentioned water, here is the best (at least as far as i know) water filter which could help people in less privileged nations. It can even be donated if you want to go to the creators website which is below. The water bottle could be a more economical option to provide poorer nations with safe drinking water as well.
http://www.lifesaversystems.com/
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I'm addicted to hot sauce, but I don't think that's exactly the type of addiction under discussion here.

Technically speaking, some sauces may just be a mental addiction and others, especially ones loaded with Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) compounds, can be physically addictive.

http://www.msgmyth.com/
http://www.truthinlabeling.org/

I would not recommend any human being to eat glutomates other than maybe small amounts which do occur naturally (don't fall for the natural flavourings con, an extract, a concentrated amount of something natural can be damaging). We are only protected from this by the blood brain barrier. Certain parts of the brain do not have this protection are parts of the brain are stimulated for a while, then die. This is why they are called Excitotoxins.

An adult could have it in small amounts no problem, but the worrying thing is is that it is in many many foods, corporations and governments seem to try and make out that it is ok to consume. The worst thing about that is though, unborn children do not have a blood brain barrier until quite late on in prenancy if am right. These glutamate compounds can cause autism, ADD and chances of other development problems as well.

If you prefer videos to reading, here is an hour and a bit talk by a leading researcher and campaigner against it.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 501310962#

I lost a whole bunch of weight last year, and part of my success has been in realizing that a lot of foods are like drugs for me. I can't quit eating cold-turkey, but I can quit eating stuff that my body reacts to as if it were crack.

Vegetables and animal meat transmit diseases as well. Legality is a result of social constructs. Like I said, cannibalism used to be tradition but that was another era. The main reason cannibalism is no longer acceptable and our prejudice makes us unable to do it is really that most of the important religions banned it. It could have gone the other way around.

I don't really wish to eat human meat nor I think people should eat it.

My friend who knows more than her says that we can just continue our dietary choices.

If you can pay for a certain food, it is healthy and you like it, eat it.


Asking people to change their taste and stop eating things they like and can afford is not going to fix the world. It will only make some few people feel morally superior to others.

The solution is to tax/penalize farmers that do not innovate into more efficient use of water.

Meh. I have no need/desire to lose weight. I'm six feet tall, 150 pounds, and am in reasonably decent shape. My cholesterol levels are abnormally low in utter defiance of my diet and family history. Once any of those numbers start to go higher than I want them, I'll change my diet.

Me too! The hardcore stuff, though.
It's always fun to ask for hot sauce in a restaurant and be brought a bottle of Tobasco.

Hence the italicization of, "for me." I didn't mean that to be a prescription for anyone else. Good for you for being in great shape, though.

Some people claim you can't be a vegan and an athlete.

Here is a guy who is both a bodybuilder and a vegan, and there are plenty of vegetarian/vegan athletes out there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvEH7W_w1NA&feature=related

I never once said people had to stop. Maybe I should have been clearer, but my opinion is, that if people ate carbon and water heavy foods in a little bit more moderation, then you'd, the excess water and excess food which would have gone to live stock would feed people who really want it.

Spoke about that man before a while ago. Dunno if it is true to be honest. Might just be a joke, but there are plenty of healthy vegans and vegetarians out there, many of them athletes actually.

I don't actually know how many vegan athletes there are, but there are plenty of vegetarian ones.

I am unable to consume any Pig product due to my adoration of Pigs, and their complex minds. Also I do not consume lamb due to the age of the animal murdered to create this meat.

I feel the same as about pigs. They are intelligent and loving as dogs.

That aside, no matter the intelligence of animal, to me, each one is of deserving of life as the next.