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09 Jan 2011, 12:38 am

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I find US citizens' refusal to have a life standard similar to the first world countries, admirable.


Well, I refuse to live like a dumb sheep.



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09 Jan 2011, 6:37 am

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You are sorry and I am glad. I have worked for decades to become both hard headed and hard hearted. I think I am finally succeeding.

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You definitely haven't succeded at the "hard headed" part, given the number of times you have outright contradicted yourself in your numerous attempts to appear "hard hearted" driven by your Nietzschean sentimentality.


I have no sentimentality. I got rid of it for Lent.

In any case it is more important to be hard headed.

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09 Jan 2011, 10:33 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
I find US citizens' refusal to have a life standard similar to the first world countries, admirable.


Well, I refuse to live like a dumb sheep.


i can just imagine how a typical european would retort your insult. this reminds me of pat robertson and scotland.



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09 Jan 2011, 4:35 pm

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I have no sentimentality. I got rid of it for Lent.


That's pretty much pure denial. You are very sentimental, just not in the fuzzy way, for the thought of being a coldly "rational" man ironically enough thrills you. Your sentimental attachment to cruel "rationality" is what emotively drives you, whether you choose to acknowledge your odd sentiments or not.

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In any case it is more important to be hard headed.

ruveyn


Given the converse error you made with regard to dictatorships and your perpetual tendency to ignore the outright contradictions in your positions, I tend to doubt that you really are "hard-headed".


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09 Jan 2011, 5:13 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
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I have no sentimentality. I got rid of it for Lent.


That's pretty much pure denial. You are very sentimental, just not in the fuzzy way, for the thought of being a coldly "rational" man ironically enough thrills you. Your sentimental attachment to cruel "rationality" is what emotively drives you, whether you choose to acknowledge your odd sentiments or not.

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In any case it is more important to be hard headed.

ruveyn


Given the converse error you made with regard to dictatorships and your perpetual tendency to ignore the outright contradictions in your positions, I tend to doubt that you really are "hard-headed".


Just like you, I occassionally make errors.

I am a professional mathematician and I very rarely make logical errors when I do math.

I have forgotten more math and physics than you ever knew in your entire lifetime.

I am fact oriented, I do not believe in supernatural crap and I have little or no compassion for strangers

But my manners are far above reproach.

It is better to be polite than kind.

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09 Jan 2011, 7:12 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
I find US citizens' refusal to have a life standard similar to the first world countries, admirable.


Well, I refuse to live like a dumb sheep.


i can just imagine how a typical european would retort your insult. this reminds me of pat robertson and scotland.


I could care less, look at all the rioting in Greece and looks like other countries may soon follow because people don't know how to survive without government hand outs.



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09 Jan 2011, 7:52 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
I find US citizens' refusal to have a life standard similar to the first world countries, admirable.


Well, I refuse to live like a dumb sheep.


i can just imagine how a typical european would retort your insult. this reminds me of pat robertson and scotland.


I could care less, look at all the rioting in Greece and looks like other countries may soon follow because people don't know how to survive without government hand outs.


Neither do several large U.S. firms.

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09 Jan 2011, 10:03 pm

i'd also be willing to say that those who benefit from agricultural subsidies would complain if those "hand-outs" were taken away.



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09 Jan 2011, 10:06 pm

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i'd also be willing to say that those who benefit from agricultural subsidies would complain if those "hand-outs" were taken away.


Most of the subsidy money doesn't even go to farmers anyways, it goes to the people doing the packaging.



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09 Jan 2011, 10:13 pm

Interesting then, that farmers would receive subsidies to package ethanol (made out of corn) , when i'd think the primary intent of those subsidies would be to feed the american people.



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09 Jan 2011, 10:34 pm

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Interesting then, that farmers would receive subsidies to package ethanol (made out of corn) , when i'd think the primary intent of those subsidies would be to feed the american people.


Wasn't referring to that subsidy, but quite frankly the fact Government has to subsidize ethanol production indicates it isn't economically viable.



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10 Jan 2011, 2:04 am

Government handouts are the future, there is no escape from that, thanks to automation. Otherwise you'll have a bunch of super-corporations making quadrillions of dollars for a small handful of people making all the money from all the production and a small group of workers and everyone else is forced to just kill themselves. I suppose that this would make more room on earth but who will buy the products? By the way, research into automation was done by government, so why should private corporations reap all the profit?



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10 Jan 2011, 7:41 am

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Government handouts are the future, there is no escape from that, thanks to automation. Otherwise you'll have a bunch of super-corporations making quadrillions of dollars for a small handful of people making all the money from all the production and a small group of workers and everyone else is forced to just kill themselves. I suppose that this would make more room on earth but who will buy the products? By the way, research into automation was done by government, so why should private corporations reap all the profit?


Would you like to get a hair cut from a robot. And can a robot unplug your toilet or fix your plumbing?

And no robot has ever proved an important mathematical theorem or written decent music.

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10 Jan 2011, 9:40 pm

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Government handouts are the future, there is no escape from that, thanks to automation. Otherwise you'll have a bunch of super-corporations making quadrillions of dollars for a small handful of people making all the money from all the production and a small group of workers and everyone else is forced to just kill themselves. I suppose that this would make more room on earth but who will buy the products? By the way, research into automation was done by government, so why should private corporations reap all the profit?


bread and circuses. or rioting and pestilence.



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11 Jan 2011, 12:32 am

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I'm also saying you have the same problem as the mainstream media, you seem to have some sort of pathological hatred towards conservatives.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I don't hate Fuzzy* or the Prime Minister of Sweden. I'm just a highly concerned world citizen and see Anglo-American ultraconservatism as a threat to society. The various motives for the ultraconservatives, be they self-interest (the Sophisticated Right) or true-belief (the Wide-Eyed Utopian Capitalists), really aren't superhumanly evil. But the ideology must be put in check to perserve civil society from disintegration.

*Fuzzy, categorically, is not an ultraconservative, he is a moderate conservative. But since he is still a conservative, my lack of hatred of him proves that I don't hate conservatives pathologically.


no one could hate our Fuzzy! What a concept! He is a fine young man!

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11 Jan 2011, 7:10 am

auntblabby wrote:
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Government handouts are the future, there is no escape from that, thanks to automation. Otherwise you'll have a bunch of super-corporations making quadrillions of dollars for a small handful of people making all the money from all the production and a small group of workers and everyone else is forced to just kill themselves. I suppose that this would make more room on earth but who will buy the products? By the way, research into automation was done by government, so why should private corporations reap all the profit?


bread and circuses. or rioting and pestilence.


How about neither. How about will tilled fields and honest toil?

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