Did the baby boomer generation ruin the world?

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14 Nov 2019, 7:31 pm

The old people had plenty of bad things to say about the “youth”

In reaction to long hair
“these days you can’t tell if its a boy or a girl”

In reaction to rock music
“Noise”

They are spoiled and ungrateful because of TV, rock music etc

In reference to Dr Spock’s “permissive” baby rearing books
“Spock Generation”

In reaction to National Guardsmen killing 4 anti war protesters at Kent State
“They should have killed them all”

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14 Nov 2019, 7:33 pm

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"What a Drag it is Getting Old" is from a Rolling Stones song. It's a song about taking pills, actually...

That’s just the opening line. The title is “Mother’s Little Helper”. It’s about Valium.

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What a drag it is getting old
‘Kids are different today,’ I hear ev'ry mother say
Mother needs something today to calm her down
And though she’s not really ill
There's a little yellow pill
She goes running for the shelter of a mother’s little helper.

Mother’s Little Helper: A brief history of benzodiazepines

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14 Nov 2019, 7:33 pm

Yep.....you know it!

It's the same thing between the Boomers and the Millennials now!

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14 Nov 2019, 7:35 pm

There was a song called "Paint it, Black," which had a similar theme.

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14 Nov 2019, 7:39 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

"What a Drag it is Getting Old" is from a Rolling Stones song. It's a song about taking pills, actually.

Today, it's prescription medication. Back in the 1960s, it was Quaaludes, or Uppers, or Downers. Bennies, Dexies.

"Valley of the Dolls" was a movie about the pill-addiction phenomenon. It goes to show that things really aren't that much different today than they were then.

I have always interpreted it as about hypocrisy of older people criticizing the drugs the young people were taking at the time.

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14 Nov 2019, 7:44 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

Yep.....you know it!

It's the same thing between the Boomers and the Millennials now!

“new boss same as the old boss”

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14 Nov 2019, 7:57 pm

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Many people of the Millennial Generation see Baby Boomers as society's party-poopers, when all along we have actually been the designated drivers.

But now the vehicle is almost filled with plastic, where is anyone supposed to sit? Perhaps the designated driver should have thought about that.

To carry the metaphor even further...

“Hey, I’m just the driver! And I didn’t ask for the job. It’s not even my car, either - it’s leased on credit. I was just a kid, minding my own business. Then I turned 18, and they grabbed me, stuck me behind the wheel, and told me to start driving. The car is over 200 years old, burns oil, and gets lousy mileage. No matter which way I turn the wheel, it steers only to the extreme left or to the extreme right - never down the middle of the road. It’s been recalled I don’t know how many times, but nobody can tell me why. I’ve tried to get someone to fix it, but they keep saying it’s all my problem. Everybody wants to take it different places, but nobody wants to pay for the trip. The kids in the back seat do nothing but scream and yell about my lousy driving, but I don’t see any of them getting their faces away from their smartphones long enough to take driving lessons, either...”

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14 Nov 2019, 8:01 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

There was a song called "Paint it, Black," which had a similar theme.

No, that was about a man’s grief over the death of a loved one.

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14 Nov 2019, 8:44 pm

Fnord wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

There was a song called "Paint it, Black," which had a similar theme.

No, that was about a man’s grief over the death of a loved one.

I always interpreted it as being about loneliness, the loss of love, or perhaps social alienation. But maybe Mick or Keef said otherwise, I dunno.

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14 Nov 2019, 9:01 pm

Let's play a game, I say two related things, and you say which is associated with a Boomer and which is associated with a Millennial.

Q1
Pension
401k

Q2
student debt, credit card debt, mortgage debt
The wealthiest generation alive

Q3
owns multiple homes (vacation home up north, or down south)
living with parents for much longer

Q4
Social Security is stable
Social Security is unstable

Q5
Entire career with same employer
Gig economy

Q6
Passing off 23+ trillion in national debt to the next generation
Inheriting 23+ trillion in national debt from a prior generation

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14 Nov 2019, 10:24 pm

VegetableMan wrote:

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kraftiekortie wrote:

There was a song called "Paint it, Black," which had a similar theme.

No, that was about a man’s grief over the death of a loved one.

I always interpreted it as being about loneliness, the loss of love, or perhaps social alienation. But maybe Mick or Keef said otherwise, I dunno.

Quote:

I see a line of cars and they're all painted black.
With flowers and my love both never to come back.
...
No more will my green segel turn a deeper blue.
I could not foresee this thing happening to you.

These lines from verses 2 and 3 would seem to indicate that it was about a man’s grief over the sudden death of a loved one; and, according to Wikipedia...

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The song describes the extreme grief suffered by one stunned by the sudden and unexpected loss of a wife, lover or partner. It is often claimed that Jagger took inspiration from novelist James Joyce's 1922 book Ulysses, taking the excerpt "I have to turn my head until my darkness goes", referring to the novel's theme of a worldwide view of desperation and desolation.

FYI: Yer arguing with a Boomer about Boomer music...

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14 Nov 2019, 10:45 pm

Golden Age Is
Always Not
Being a Slave

As Long as You are Not a Slave; Life may Be Good;

Increasingly, Younger Folks are Not Willing to do that.

But; Life is Based on Doing Someone Else's Directed, Produced, and Acted Play, mostly;

Unless you Escape; It's Easier; so much Easier to do That Financially Independent; Baby Boomer's Last
Generation With Pre-prepared Feathered Nests; At Least as a Last Generation, First; the World is Great to me;
But i make it this way; It doesn't really Matter Who Else is in Charge for Now at least; Freedom Still Rules in my World.

It Depends on Where You are At; And What Your Are Doing; And Who are With; Heaven or Hell no matter What Generation.

Meh; i'll stick with Golden Age of my Own; For me at Least 60 is the Eternal Heaven coming; Just flowing; Just Joyful at ease; i never imagined Life Will Be This Great; it's All a Perspective of What's BReWinG WiTHiN; Bliss or Ugly Storms that don't end, either now.

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14 Nov 2019, 10:49 pm

Go placidly amid the noise and waste,
And remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
Avoid quiet and passive persons, unless you are in need of sleep.
Rotate your tires.
Speak glowingly of those greater than yourself,
And heed well their advice, even though they be turkeys.
Know what to kiss, and when.
Consider that two wrongs never make a right, but that three do.
Wherever possible, put people on hold.
Be comforted that in the face of all aridity and disillusionment,
and despite the changing fortunes of time,
There is always a big future in computer maintenance.

Remember The Pueblo.
Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle, and mutilate.
Know yourself.
If you need help, call the FBI.
Exercise caution in your daily affairs,
Especially with those persons closest to you -
That lemon on your left, for instance.
Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls
Would scarcely get your feet wet.
Fall not in love therefore. It will stick to your face.
Gracefully surrender the things of youth: birds, clean air, tuna, Taiwan.
And let not the sands of time get in your lunch.
Hire people with hooks.
For a good time, call 606-4311. Ask for Ken.
Take heart in the bedeepening gloom
That your dog is finally getting enough cheese.
And reflect that whatever fortune may be your lot,
It could only be worse in Milwaukee.

You are a fluke of the universe.
You have no right to be here.
And whether you can hear it or not,
The universe is laughing behind your back.

Therefore, make peace with your god,
Whatever you perceive him to be - hairy thunderer, or cosmic muffin.
With all its hopes, dreams, promises, and urban renewal,
The world continues to deteriorate.
Give up!

Deteriorata
by Christopher Guest © 1972
(Original text)

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15 Nov 2019, 11:31 am

SMiLes; ALWaYS
Good For/to:
Have Two
Points of View;
DarK And LiGHT;
CloudS And Sun;
Dark Side of Moon And Stars
Above Even Balance Beyond Below
Best to Accept IT ALL And Now
Just Have Fun Hell Dance in Rain
Why Not
From/By: Heaven.

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15 Nov 2019, 12:47 pm

Fnord wrote:

VegetableMan wrote:

Fnord wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

There was a song called "Paint it, Black," which had a similar theme.

No, that was about a man’s grief over the death of a loved one.

I always interpreted it as being about loneliness, the loss of love, or perhaps social alienation. But maybe Mick or Keef said otherwise, I dunno.

Quote:

These lines from verses 2 and 3 would seem to indicate that it was about a man’s grief over the sudden death of a loved one; and, according to Wikipedia...

Quote:

FYI: Yer arguing with a Boomer about Boomer music...

Well. I wasn't really arguing, just giving my opinion based on my interpretation. With what you've presented here, I now agree with you.

Technically I'm a boomer, although I've never really felt part of of that generation, having been born at the tail end of the boomer years.I do love 60s rock. though.

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15 Nov 2019, 1:04 pm

I feel like a Boomer---because I remember the Vietnam War well, and the Robert Kennedy and King assassinations well. And the Moon landing. I don't remember JFK well, though. I was born in 1961, and I became aware of my own existence about 1966.

I have a friend who is two years younger than me----and he's definitely a Generation X-er. He doesn't remember any of these things too well.

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