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30 Mar 2011, 12:52 pm

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I don't interpret "white trash" to be racist, rather it is descriptive. There are lots of different kinds of trash, this trash happened to be white.


There's plenty white trash in Florida and Louisiana. My friend got run down by some drunk white trash; messed up his knee and left him with some severe road rash.


And I've seen a person drive their car on a sidewalk, a city bus run a stop sign, and another car running a stop sign all on the same day... There are people that just shouldn't be behind the wheel, also I know of a lot college professionals that drive older trucks.


I think the actual bottom line is that most people probably shouldn't be allowed to drive because they're distracted people in general and cannot operate a motor vehicle responsibly.

Maybe should start calling it a murder vehicle to really emphasize the level of responsibility with it.


Then how about you for starters try driving with your cell phone off and/or not text and drive... Cars don't kill people (unless they are defective) it is the people behind the wheel doing something else stupidly that causes the accident (assuming weather isn't a factor).



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30 Mar 2011, 12:57 pm

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I don't interpret "white trash" to be racist, rather it is descriptive. There are lots of different kinds of trash, this trash happened to be white.


There's plenty white trash in Florida and Louisiana. My friend got run down by some drunk white trash; messed up his knee and left him with some severe road rash.


And I've seen a person drive their car on a sidewalk, a city bus run a stop sign, and another car running a stop sign all on the same day... There are people that just shouldn't be behind the wheel, also I know of a lot college professionals that drive older trucks.


I think the actual bottom line is that most people probably shouldn't be allowed to drive because they're distracted people in general and cannot operate a motor vehicle responsibly.

Maybe should start calling it a murder vehicle to really emphasize the level of responsibility with it.


Then how about you for starters try driving with your cell phone off and/or not text and drive... Cars don't kill people (unless they are defective) it is the people behind the wheel doing something else stupidly that causes the accident (assuming weather isn't a factor).


It's rare I even answer my phone in my car unless I actually remembered to put in my Bluetooth headset and even then I'll ignore conversation to focus on driving when the situation demands it (ie, someone else obviously isn't paying attention or is looking to do something stupid).


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30 Mar 2011, 1:02 pm

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That's probably true. A fairly large number of careless idiots have damn near gotten me killed when they chose to ignore the fact that I had the right of way. One person smashed up my old bike pretty badly when she actually hit me a few months back. Just sailed straight through a stop sign without bothering to check if anyone was there.


Funny, some of the worst driver's I've seen have either been from out east, or College Professors and/or College students.


Worst I've seen have been white trash. Normally driving white trucks.


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Any other racist rants? I bolded the remark for emphasis...

So in a liberal's mind it is okay for Clinton to have had affairs and commit perjury, but Newt Gingrich has no business being President because he had affairs (about 15 years ago), and did not commit perjury.

The impeachment of Clinton was about obstruction of justice and committing perjury, not the fact that he couldn't keep his pants on.


Yup - that's about it. :D

Clinton wasn't re-elected after all that hullaballo - though polls show he could have been. The issue is that Gingrich is a hypocrite, and a disingenuous one at that. He won't be president because he won't get the votes. That is the only criteria that matters in a democratic republic.


How was Gingrich a hypocrit if the impeachment was over Clinton committing perjury? Gingrich didn't commit perjury.


If you continue with this Clinton-reference nonsense I'm going to honestly say you have no integrity in this discussion. We are talking about Gingrich, not something that happened more than ten years ago. Can you please not change the subject for once? It might work in IRL discussions but unfortunately past comments are plain to see here


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30 Mar 2011, 1:12 pm

Vigilans wrote:
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That's probably true. A fairly large number of careless idiots have damn near gotten me killed when they chose to ignore the fact that I had the right of way. One person smashed up my old bike pretty badly when she actually hit me a few months back. Just sailed straight through a stop sign without bothering to check if anyone was there.


Funny, some of the worst driver's I've seen have either been from out east, or College Professors and/or College students.


Worst I've seen have been white trash. Normally driving white trucks.


:roll:

Any other racist rants? I bolded the remark for emphasis...

So in a liberal's mind it is okay for Clinton to have had affairs and commit perjury, but Newt Gingrich has no business being President because he had affairs (about 15 years ago), and did not commit perjury.

The impeachment of Clinton was about obstruction of justice and committing perjury, not the fact that he couldn't keep his pants on.


Yup - that's about it. :D

Clinton wasn't re-elected after all that hullaballo - though polls show he could have been. The issue is that Gingrich is a hypocrite, and a disingenuous one at that. He won't be president because he won't get the votes. That is the only criteria that matters in a democratic republic.


How was Gingrich a hypocrit if the impeachment was over Clinton committing perjury? Gingrich didn't commit perjury.


If you continue with this Clinton-reference nonsense I'm going to honestly say you have no integrity in this discussion. We are talking about Gingrich, not something that happened more than ten years ago. Can you please not change the subject for once? It might work in IRL discussions but unfortunately past comments are plain to see here


In that case you would be the one that had no integrity, because Gingrich hasn't had any affairs in the past 10 years. So, why are you saying you can bring up things that happened over a decade ago, but I can't bring up the hypocracy of your statements?



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30 Mar 2011, 1:14 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
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Inuyasha wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
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That's probably true. A fairly large number of careless idiots have damn near gotten me killed when they chose to ignore the fact that I had the right of way. One person smashed up my old bike pretty badly when she actually hit me a few months back. Just sailed straight through a stop sign without bothering to check if anyone was there.


Funny, some of the worst driver's I've seen have either been from out east, or College Professors and/or College students.


Worst I've seen have been white trash. Normally driving white trucks.


:roll:

Any other racist rants? I bolded the remark for emphasis...

So in a liberal's mind it is okay for Clinton to have had affairs and commit perjury, but Newt Gingrich has no business being President because he had affairs (about 15 years ago), and did not commit perjury.

The impeachment of Clinton was about obstruction of justice and committing perjury, not the fact that he couldn't keep his pants on.


Yup - that's about it. :D

Clinton wasn't re-elected after all that hullaballo - though polls show he could have been. The issue is that Gingrich is a hypocrite, and a disingenuous one at that. He won't be president because he won't get the votes. That is the only criteria that matters in a democratic republic.


How was Gingrich a hypocrit if the impeachment was over Clinton committing perjury? Gingrich didn't commit perjury.


If you continue with this Clinton-reference nonsense I'm going to honestly say you have no integrity in this discussion. We are talking about Gingrich, not something that happened more than ten years ago. Can you please not change the subject for once? It might work in IRL discussions but unfortunately past comments are plain to see here


In that case you would be the one that had no integrity, because Gingrich hasn't had any affairs in the past 10 years. So, why are you saying you can bring up things that happened over a decade ago, but I can't bring up the hypocracy of your statements?


I'm actually bringing up the comments that Gingrich made recently in regards to his adultery. You honestly want a guy who bangs women on the side because of his pent up patriotic blue balls, go ahead. And still with the Clinton! :lmao:


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30 Mar 2011, 1:27 pm

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I'm actually bringing up the comments that Gingrich made recently in regards to his adultery. You honestly want a guy who bangs women on the side because of his pent up patriotic blue balls, go ahead. And still with the Clinton! :lmao:


Gingrich also has said he isn't perfect, and he's matured since then and its for the American People to decide whether or not to forgive him.



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30 Mar 2011, 1:30 pm

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I'm actually bringing up the comments that Gingrich made recently in regards to his adultery. You honestly want a guy who bangs women on the side because of his pent up patriotic blue balls, go ahead. And still with the Clinton! :lmao:


Gingrich also has said he isn't perfect, and he's matured since then and its for the American People to decide whether or not to forgive him.


Nobody's perfect, especially not guys like Gingrich or Clinton. But the fact remains he banged what, 3 women on the side? And his excuse is just insulting to the people of America. Isn't there somebody better from the GOP who is actually worth your time defending? I can almost guarantee there will be. What is it about Gingrich that makes you want to defend him? Just curious


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30 Mar 2011, 1:34 pm

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I'm actually bringing up the comments that Gingrich made recently in regards to his adultery. You honestly want a guy who bangs women on the side because of his pent up patriotic blue balls, go ahead. And still with the Clinton! :lmao:


Gingrich also has said he isn't perfect, and he's matured since then and its for the American People to decide whether or not to forgive him.


Nobody's perfect, especially not guys like Gingrich or Clinton. But the fact remains he banged what, 3 women on the side? And his excuse is just insulting to the people of America. Isn't there somebody better from the GOP who is actually worth your time defending? I can almost guarantee there will be. What is it about Gingrich that makes you want to defend him? Just curious


Clinton banged a lot more than that, and then proceeded to lie about things before a Federal Grand Jury. We've had a lot of Presidents that have had affairs, FDR, JFK, and Clinton are ones I can name off the top of my head, I'm sure there were Republican Presidents that had affairs as well.



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30 Mar 2011, 1:38 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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I'm actually bringing up the comments that Gingrich made recently in regards to his adultery. You honestly want a guy who bangs women on the side because of his pent up patriotic blue balls, go ahead. And still with the Clinton! :lmao:


Gingrich also has said he isn't perfect, and he's matured since then and its for the American People to decide whether or not to forgive him.


Nobody's perfect, especially not guys like Gingrich or Clinton. But the fact remains he banged what, 3 women on the side? And his excuse is just insulting to the people of America. Isn't there somebody better from the GOP who is actually worth your time defending? I can almost guarantee there will be. What is it about Gingrich that makes you want to defend him? Just curious


Clinton banged a lot more than that, and then proceeded to lie about things before a Federal Grand Jury. We've had a lot of Presidents that have had affairs, FDR, JFK, and Clinton are ones I can name off the top of my head, I'm sure there were Republican Presidents that had affairs as well.


Don't forget LBJ was big on affairs, too.


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30 Mar 2011, 1:39 pm

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I'm actually bringing up the comments that Gingrich made recently in regards to his adultery. You honestly want a guy who bangs women on the side because of his pent up patriotic blue balls, go ahead. And still with the Clinton! :lmao:


Gingrich also has said he isn't perfect, and he's matured since then and its for the American People to decide whether or not to forgive him.


Nobody's perfect, especially not guys like Gingrich or Clinton. But the fact remains he banged what, 3 women on the side? And his excuse is just insulting to the people of America. Isn't there somebody better from the GOP who is actually worth your time defending? I can almost guarantee there will be. What is it about Gingrich that makes you want to defend him? Just curious


Clinton banged a lot more than that, and then proceeded to lie about things before a Federal Grand Jury. We've had a lot of Presidents that have had affairs, FDR, JFK, and Clinton are ones I can name off the top of my head, I'm sure there were Republican Presidents that had affairs as well.


Don't forget LBJ was big on affairs, too.


Didn't know that, and didn't really want to name another Democrat in any case.



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30 Mar 2011, 1:49 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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I'm actually bringing up the comments that Gingrich made recently in regards to his adultery. You honestly want a guy who bangs women on the side because of his pent up patriotic blue balls, go ahead. And still with the Clinton! :lmao:


Gingrich also has said he isn't perfect, and he's matured since then and its for the American People to decide whether or not to forgive him.


Nobody's perfect, especially not guys like Gingrich or Clinton. But the fact remains he banged what, 3 women on the side? And his excuse is just insulting to the people of America. Isn't there somebody better from the GOP who is actually worth your time defending? I can almost guarantee there will be. What is it about Gingrich that makes you want to defend him? Just curious


Clinton banged a lot more than that, and then proceeded to lie about things before a Federal Grand Jury. We've had a lot of Presidents that have had affairs, FDR, JFK, and Clinton are ones I can name off the top of my head, I'm sure there were Republican Presidents that had affairs as well.


Don't forget LBJ was big on affairs, too.


Didn't know that, and didn't really want to name another Democrat in any case.


Apparently he was a very "gifted" and had a high libido.

To be honest, a lot of the affairs things strike me more as an indicator to a psychological attraction to selfish power and I wouldn't want any of them in charge. Democrats included.


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30 Mar 2011, 7:10 pm

It's not just that he had affaris, it's that he divorced his wives for younger women several times, at least once when the wife was in the hospital for cancer. That's considerably more morally suspect than JFK having a fling with Marilyn.



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Piloting a small plane is not that hard under normal conditions. Even landing a plane - the worst part - is not that hard. As a bar for basic intelligence, it's pretty low.


While it is not impossibly hard, it is exacting, requires focus and concentration and involves enough calculation and correlation of data to not be done by an idiot. And one must pass an exacting examination to get a license. If automobile driving were as rigorous licensed as piloting there would be only a tenth as many cars legally on the road as there are now.

Are you a pilot? Do you know what you are talking about? I am (or was). My piloting days are over because my sight, my hand-eye co-ordination and my hearing are not what they used to be.

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I doubt that is accurate - maybe half, at most, of drivers would fail the test; most would simply study harder, learn more, and consequently be better drivers.
edit: I am not a licensed pilot, but I have flown a plane. I was not impressed by how difficult it was.



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30 Mar 2011, 7:31 pm

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That's considerably more morally suspect than JFK having a fling with Marilyn.


But less than having her killed.


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30 Mar 2011, 7:35 pm

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That's considerably more morally suspect than JFK having a fling with Marilyn.


But less than having her killed.


And then faking his own death so as to create the profitable JFK conspiracy memorabilia industry from some wholesale factory in Nicaragua


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I doubt that is accurate - maybe half, at most, of drivers would fail the test; most would simply study harder, learn more, and consequently be better drivers.
edit: I am not a licensed pilot, but I have flown a plane. I was not impressed by how difficult it was.


Try flying IFR and you will change your mind.

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