republicans, iowa, debate/straw poll

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In case you missed it earlier:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/ ... 5520110810

I am supporting Ron Paul, and if he drops out, I would endorse Chris Christie should he decide to enter the race.

Perry was originally a Democrat, and he was one when he was Agriculture Commissioner. That may hurt his chances. As for Bachmann, the issues with her bodyguards may be an issue. She puts the "bully" in "bully pulpit".

I watched a clip of the Pawlenty Bachmann exchange, and that was interesting enough that I found video of and watched the whole thing.

I agree that Gingrich is the smartest one out there; it's like he doesn't even need talking points because he can do just as well extemporaneously as others can with days of preparation. I think he'd make a great president. That said, I think his manner is too grouchy to connect with the "average Joe" voter, so I doubt he'll get very far in the primaries, let alone the general election. Taking the moderators apart twice turns the press against him, and he isn't the type to sugar coat things for them.

I was impressed with Bachmann too. She can clearly think on her feet, and she has clearly thought a lot of these things out in advance as well - thought them out herself, rather than just memorizing handlers' talking points. She was also pretty clearly speaking to the Iowan audience because the straw poll was critical to her fundraising - a smart move even if it made her points less understandable to the journalists analyzing the debate. It was interesting to see the change when she was speaking to a national audience on Sunday.

I was a bit disappointed in Romney. He did fine in the debate, but he didn't really demonstrate an ability to think on his feet as Gingrich and Bachmann did. Granted he didn't really need to.

It's tough to take Paul seriously when he talks about just allowing anyone to have a nuclear weapon, or about returning to the gold standard. In a perfect world those things might make sense; in the real world there are practical considerations that make them unrealistic. Santorum seemed sensible but lacking in ideas; Cain seemed genial but also somewhat lacking in ideas. The other guy was forgettable, aside from the fact that he'd probably do better challenging Obama in the Democrat primaries.

Uh did you just prove my case for me?

It's sickening how far right the field has come that Huntsman seems like he doesn't even belong to the same party anymore. He is quite conservative on most issues- on tax policy especially he has one of the most conservative records out there.

Frankly, Obama would do better running in the Republican primaries. Just look at his actual record- the lowest tax rates in all of post-war American history, tough on immigration as shown through record-breaking deportation rates, passing a healthcare bill that was exactly what Republicans were promoting from 1993-2009, renewing the Bush tax cuts, staying the course in Iraq, escalating involvement in Afghanistan, intervening in Libya, coming down like a ton of bricks on whistleblowers and leakers, killing Osama bin Laden, cutting trillions of dollars from the budget, and now standing poised to make massive cuts to Social Security and Medicare- this last accomplishment being a feat that no Republican President has ever come close to achieving, though not for lack of trying. The man should be an idol of the conservative movement.

No. You are just illiterate and don't understand the difference between a rocket and an IED.

Don't they often use both, the IED to disable vehicle kill as many as they can, then use a rocket. Not to mention an IED is easier for them because they actually can just set it and walk away, while with a rocket, you actually have to be there.

It is common for a mix of weapons to be used in an attack. It is not especially common for any of those weapons to be rockets. Yes, the IED is easier to use, and it is used a lot more. The only source you have cited claimed that there were Iranian rockets being used against our troops- it made no mention of IEDs.

Your line of argument makes no sense. You seem confused.

That's probably because he is confused!

Actually it's more of I had just gotten off of work, and was rather tired and didn't feel like spending that much downtime hunting down articles.

That's not too surprising. So just admit you were wrong in your claim that most of our troop fatalities in are caused by Iranian weapons.

You are asking me to lie. Just cause I can't remember where I found something off the top of my head, doesn't mean I don't remember what I read.



Due to Republicans and Tea Partiers having an extremely low opinion of the credibility of journalists right now, this actually might be a positive for Newt. The more he ticks off the press, I'm guessing the more Conservatives are going to like him.

Inuyasha hasn't proven his point, but no one as provided any evidence to the contrary, either. IEDs are made from other weapons, which could also be provided by Iran.


Valid point. There's still the part about him having difficulty connecting to the average Joe, though, and also the fact that he's low on money and unlikely to get more. I think he made a mistake targeting his early fundraising toward the evangelicals, as his record appeals more to economic conservatives.

I know where you heard it; you got it from that loser Santorum. He's an idiot. So are you.


IEDs are generally produced locally. Other weapons are either locally available or imported from a variety of places. Certainly the claim that a majority of troop deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan are caused by Iranian weapons is ridiculous. Even allowing that there are some Iranian weapons, it is much too great a leap to say "most."

I would trust Santorum more than I would trust you, even though Santorum is a politician.



As much as you would love for it to be locals rebelling against us because your liberal mind dictates that the US is evil. Your warped perceptions of reality are not in fact reality.

You don't have to trust me; you can look through the casualty reports yourself if you like. IEDs are improvised- that is, they are made with whatever is handy.


And this is how we know that even Inuyasha realizes he has lost the argument- a random veer off into some bizarre and unfounded tangent. No, I do not believe the US is evil. I am a patriotic American, unlike yourself. As to who is fighting us in Afghanistan, it is primarily the Afghans and some Pakistanis, mostly because of the obvious fact that they are the ones who are there. I don't see why a belief in America being evil would have anything to do with Afghans vs Iranians choosing to fight against us.