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30 Nov 2011, 7:08 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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The gay claims were nothing but tabloid fodder that faded away quickly, because there was nothing to them.


Oh, I forgot the Law of False Claims: the media always let a story die at a rate equal to its level of falsehood.
The 80%-liberal news media never milks a scandalous claim if it's about a conservative -- particularly one who seeks to unseat their darling, Obama.
I just forgot the media were fair, thanks for reminding me.
Cain's campaign is now on life support because of unfounded claims, but whatever.


I would add and I need to check this that part of this supposed affair occurred while he was having Chemotherapy for Stage IV liver and colon cancer, does anyone seriously think he could have had an affair in that condition?


The treatment occurred during 2006.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/bl ... z1fEkgc2Z7
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Cain took advantage of cutting-edge advances in surgery and chemotherapy — treatments that have since become standard — to aggressively treat the disease over the course of nine months. He underwent two rounds of chemo and a six-and-a-half hour surgery that removed 30 percent of his colon and 70 percent of his liver.


Are you saying that the disease and treatment also left him impotent?



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30 Nov 2011, 7:26 pm

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30 Nov 2011, 7:34 pm

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And still, nobody wants to discuss the fact that Cain has no real platform, no substance, and has basically run on a tax plan that's a complete joke? Whether or not he had affairs shouldn't even be relevant, because he should never have been a serious candidate in the first place. Then again, he might just have enough dumbed-down rhetoric to be a Republican President :doh:


Cain has a least on virtue. He is not Barak Obama.

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30 Nov 2011, 8:08 pm

Cain is a total clown. I can't believe anyone took the guy seriously. During the primary debates, he kept intoning about his tax plan ("Muh 9-9-9 plan") like an idiot. He has no ideas outside of his tax plan. He's also incredibly hot headed. He doesn't know how to handle the press. Reagan and Bush at least knew how to deflect aggressive press questions.

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30 Nov 2011, 8:10 pm

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You guys consider Cain guilty until proven innocent. You don't have the balls to say so.


Cain has been proven guilty of having lied about the fact that he was formally accused of sexual harassment twice while head of the NRA, and that these accusations were resolved with a combination of monetary compensation and gag orders.

You just don't have the balls to say so.



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30 Nov 2011, 8:23 pm

on intrade Cain is down to 1.1% chance of getting the nom.
The cain train has left the station.


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30 Nov 2011, 9:24 pm

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Is this truly what passes for political discourse today? The mind fair boggles.

Is the public so intellectually stunted that a candidate cannot be assessed on the quality of the candidate's intellect? The content of the candidate's policy? The ability to enact and implement the policy? The ability of such a policy to achieve desirable goals?

Are we so vacuous that our only barometers for measuring a candidate are marital fidelity and the absolutism of statements either for or against abortion. Is there nothing else in the policy cupboard?
Policy is unlikely to be different at all regardless of whether Obama or a republican gets elected, so it is no surprise it is not a matter here.

I think there is a lot you can figure out about a candidate from his/her opinion about abortion. Helps filter the religious, misogynistic goons quite easily.


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30 Nov 2011, 9:24 pm

Aw. Poor guy.

Well, now we'll just have to bring down Fatty next. I wonder if he is still wenching around, also?



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30 Nov 2011, 9:27 pm

Telekon wrote:
Cain is a total clown. I can't believe anyone took the guy seriously. During the primary debates, he kept intoning about his tax plan ("Muh 9-9-9 plan") like an idiot. He has no ideas outside of his tax plan. He's also incredibly hot headed. He doesn't know how to handle the press. Reagan and Bush at least knew how to deflect aggressive press questions.

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01 Dec 2011, 12:03 am

Guys do you really think he could have been having an affair while he was undergoing chemotherapy, surgery, etc. for stage IV liver and colon cancer? Cause part of when he was supposedly having this affair was when he was getting treatment for cancer.



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01 Dec 2011, 12:48 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Guys do you really think he could have been having an affair while he was undergoing chemotherapy, surgery, etc. for stage IV liver and colon cancer? Cause part of when he was supposedly having this affair was when he was getting treatment for cancer.


I don't see why it matters, it was over the span of 13 years.



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01 Dec 2011, 12:51 am

Jacoby wrote:
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Guys do you really think he could have been having an affair while he was undergoing chemotherapy, surgery, etc. for stage IV liver and colon cancer? Cause part of when he was supposedly having this affair was when he was getting treatment for cancer.


I don't see why it matters, it was over the span of 13 years.


It matters cause his chemo was taking place smack dab in the middle of when this alleged affair was occurring.

Do you honestly think that he would be able to have an affair with anyone while recovering from surgeries and chemo?



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01 Dec 2011, 1:05 am

Inuyasha wrote:
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Guys do you really think he could have been having an affair while he was undergoing chemotherapy, surgery, etc. for stage IV liver and colon cancer? Cause part of when he was supposedly having this affair was when he was getting treatment for cancer.


I don't see why it matters, it was over the span of 13 years.


It matters cause his chemo was taking place smack dab in the middle of when this alleged affair was occurring.

Do you honestly think that he would be able to have an affair with anyone while recovering from surgeries and chemo?


In all honesty, I don't see why he couldn't.
While it's fictional, Walter White in Breaking Bad is able to pleasure his wife, raise his family, and produce the super potent blue meth, all while going through chemo and surgery.
I know, Inuyasha will rip me a new one for comparing Herman Cain to a nefarious fictional anti-hero! :twisted:

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01 Dec 2011, 2:47 am

Inuyasha wrote:
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Guys do you really think he could have been having an affair while he was undergoing chemotherapy, surgery, etc. for stage IV liver and colon cancer? Cause part of when he was supposedly having this affair was when he was getting treatment for cancer.


I don't see why it matters, it was over the span of 13 years.


It matters cause his chemo was taking place smack dab in the middle of when this alleged affair was occurring.

Do you honestly think that he would be able to have an affair with anyone while recovering from surgeries and chemo?


Would his wife suddenly stop being his wife if he was temporarily rendered impotent? Affairs aren't purely sexual in nature, as can be seen by Herman's financial support of Ginger White, especially not 13 year ones. It's the same as any other relationship except Herman is married. Even if it was purely sexual, assuming he has fully recovered from cancer, he was diagnosed with cancer in 2006 and treated over 9 months? So maybe that was a 2 year recovery? That's still 11 years. Bringing up his cancer really seems to be grasping at straws. If you need something to rationalize it, just be glad it was consensual.



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01 Dec 2011, 9:11 am

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Bringing up his cancer really seems to be grasping at straws. If you need something to rationalize it, just be glad it was consensual.


Probably it started as the other ones did that were abruptly stopped.

Anyway, you can also be glad that it was heterosexual, which is unusual for a Republican.



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01 Dec 2011, 9:12 am

And, let's not forget: Bill Clinton was acquitted of lying about Monica. It is a false equivalency.