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23 Dec 2011, 3:36 am

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No. And you know why? Because I'm in a lot more agreement with Obama than I am with Paul.
And I hope if he takes that Wall Street cash, he'll tell the bankers and corporate executives to go piss off, as this would be his second and last term and wouldn't need them any more.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Ahh, so it's different when Obama does it? You'll condemn one man and yet turn a blind eye to the same conduct from another depending on whether you agree with them or not? That's a dangerous precedent to set, that type of ethical flexibility. Just out of curiosity, do you think racists in the woods are more dangerous to the country than an unchecked Wall Street?

Depends on where you live and what color you are.



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23 Dec 2011, 4:01 am

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Depends on where you live and what color you are.


He's in the same state as me, and IFIAK just as if not more white. I'm just going off of what he's said in other threads about believing Wall Street is destroying the country combined with unshakeable Obama support in spite of the latter's being a clear tool of the former.

Now in my own experience with years of interracial dating and marriage, the "progressive" areas of the country are just as racist as the rest, just more subtle about it. My wife lived in the south for years and says she's never experienced racism like she's seen since moving to Seattle, plus my black and Latin friends have said the same over the years.


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23 Dec 2011, 7:03 pm

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When did racists lose their right as American citizens to donate to the candidates of their choice anyways? Ron isn't a racist and he doesn't support racism in any way. If that's what these people think they're donating their money to their wasting it on someone who will take it and use it to promote peace and freedom. He can't control who supports him.


I don't think you answered my question. It's as if you'd rather answer some other imaginary question rather than the one I asked.


Your post wasn't up when I posted. 'But yes he has repudiated all of the offending statements on numerous occasions over the course of 20 years they've been trying to smear him with it. No reasonable person believes he wrote it and it's been a dead issue for a long long time. What these media jackals are looking for isn't an explanation, they're looking to assassinate his character. Think about the timing of this attack, they bust it out right when he's threatening to win the Iowa Caucus. The establishment is running scared and they're using the only thing they have left to throw at him, they can't beat him on the issues, they can't find any bad votes he's taken, they can't tie him to any politic or personal scandal, so they have to resort to long debunked smears.


When did he do that?

And why does he sit in interviews with a well-known liar and nutty conspiracy theorist like Alex Jones?



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23 Dec 2011, 7:38 pm

MCalavera wrote:
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When did racists lose their right as American citizens to donate to the candidates of their choice anyways? Ron isn't a racist and he doesn't support racism in any way. If that's what these people think they're donating their money to their wasting it on someone who will take it and use it to promote peace and freedom. He can't control who supports him.


I don't think you answered my question. It's as if you'd rather answer some other imaginary question rather than the one I asked.


Your post wasn't up when I posted. 'But yes he has repudiated all of the offending statements on numerous occasions over the course of 20 years they've been trying to smear him with it. No reasonable person believes he wrote it and it's been a dead issue for a long long time. What these media jackals are looking for isn't an explanation, they're looking to assassinate his character. Think about the timing of this attack, they bust it out right when he's threatening to win the Iowa Caucus. The establishment is running scared and they're using the only thing they have left to throw at him, they can't beat him on the issues, they can't find any bad votes he's taken, they can't tie him to any politic or personal scandal, so they have to resort to long debunked smears.


When did he do that?

And why does he sit in interviews with a well-known liar and nutty conspiracy theorist like Alex Jones?


Every time they've tried to smear him with it in last 15 years. The media isn't looking for the truth here, they're looking to destroy Ron Paul truth be damned. That's why they keep bringing it up despite it being debunked long ago.

As for why he goes on Alex Jones, he gets invited. Alex Jones isn't really conspiracy stuff all the time. A lot of the time he talks about things like the VERY real NDAA and other infringements of our constitutional rights.



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23 Dec 2011, 8:32 pm

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Every time they've tried to smear him with it in last 15 years. The media isn't looking for the truth here, they're looking to destroy Ron Paul truth be damned. That's why they keep bringing it up despite it being debunked long ago.


http://jezebel.com/5870495/ron-pauls-ra ... -everybody

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And die hard Paulites are going to continue to claim that a vast conspiracy of mainstream media and freedom-haters are trying to keep their hero down.



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23 Dec 2011, 8:43 pm

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Every time they've tried to smear him with it in last 15 years. The media isn't looking for the truth here, they're looking to destroy Ron Paul truth be damned. That's why they keep bringing it up despite it being debunked long ago.


http://jezebel.com/5870495/ron-pauls-ra ... -everybody

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And die hard Paulites are going to continue to claim that a vast conspiracy of mainstream media and freedom-haters are trying to keep their hero down.


enjoying trolling?



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23 Dec 2011, 8:50 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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Every time they've tried to smear him with it in last 15 years. The media isn't looking for the truth here, they're looking to destroy Ron Paul truth be damned. That's why they keep bringing it up despite it being debunked long ago.


http://jezebel.com/5870495/ron-pauls-ra ... -everybody

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And die hard Paulites are going to continue to claim that a vast conspiracy of mainstream media and freedom-haters are trying to keep their hero down.


enjoying trolling?


It is quite a pleasure. A vast conspiracy of mainstream media, freedom haters, and trolls, keeping your hero down.



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23 Dec 2011, 9:15 pm

pandabear wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
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Every time they've tried to smear him with it in last 15 years. The media isn't looking for the truth here, they're looking to destroy Ron Paul truth be damned. That's why they keep bringing it up despite it being debunked long ago.


http://jezebel.com/5870495/ron-pauls-ra ... -everybody

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And die hard Paulites are going to continue to claim that a vast conspiracy of mainstream media and freedom-haters are trying to keep their hero down.


enjoying trolling?


It is quite a pleasure. A vast conspiracy of mainstream media, freedom haters, and trolls, keeping your hero down.


I think there's a conspiracy to boost Paul. One of the biggest news stories in the November debate where he got 89 seconds to speak was the fact that he got 89 seconds to speak! He was ignored while the other candidates committed seppuku. He's in the news now that he's ahead in Iowa, and partially because of his newsletters. He will survive the claims, unless people from his past start coming out of the woodwork to accuse him of racism, like the women that came out about Cain's infidelities, but I find that just as likely as a black guy walking up to Romney and asking him where he thought he got his skin color. If Ron Paul does win, all this will be seen as a conspiracy that propelled him to win.