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So your reason for ignoring the absence of proof for god, is that he doesn't act on a human time table, or in a way we can comprehend?

And yes he was supposed to communicate with us, and be able to send his son down to earth.

You aren't making much sense here shrox.

...I don't follow your reasoning at all shrox.

I want god to prove he exists, if he does not, I will continue to operate on the assumption that god does not exist.

No excuses about logic and time scales. Either god exists, or god does not.

Oh, I am not going to prove anything, other that George Lucas needs a new job. (Ewoks, Jar-Jar-Binks.)

Why do you want me to prove God exists? So you can then "believe"? What proof would you accept? An object?

If god exists, it would explain a lot and set my mind at rest about some of the random little questions in my mind. Where did we actually come from? Was it actually random? That sort of thing. I accept sciences current answers, but they are not 100% proven (as far as I know).

The proof that I would accept would include:
Direct communication with god
Scientific proof that god exists
The second coming of christ (assuming demonstration of his abilities)

Scientific proof of god existing would be very difficult. I'm not even sure if it's actually possible.

The fact that this thread exist, is proof she does exist.
If not - what are you talking about, scientific non-existent proof?

Do you really want a giant hand to reach down to stop YOU from doing something stupid, like drunk driving? Do you really want him to control your mind to stop YOU from doing evil, like swiping a pack of cigarettes, or an unguarded laptop computer?

Gee, maybe stopping evil is up to...YOU?

I am no Queen, but Sir Lucas is inspiring, creative, respected and puts forth effort to prove what he believes in.

Ewoks man! E-w-o-k-s.

The problem with most of the arguments you typically see both for and against the existence of God is that the reasoning tends to be simplistic, linear and egocentric. For the believers, all-too-often, God has been hijacked by religion and their beliefs are shaped by people who have human motivations. For non-believers, all-too-often, God is defined as the God of the Bible/Koran/mythology etc. and once that God is dismissed, then the idea of any God is easily rejected as well. I think in order to honestly answer the question of the existence of God, you need to eliminate thousands of years of human baggage on the topic and stop looking at God in terms of his impact on humanity or individuals. The universe is way bigger than that.

I read a book a few years ago called The God Theory and found it to be quite an interesting read. It basically approaches the question from a scientific perspective and proposes that consciousness gave rise to matter rather than the commonly held idea that matter gives rise to consciousness. It's a heady book, but one of the easy-to-comprehend principles in it is that there was an original intelligence that gave rise to the universe and in doing so allowed itself to experience the combined forces of every single thing that every living thing experiences. Perhaps not all will agree with the theories that the book proposes, but it is a far more intelligent and scientific examination of the question than I have ever seen before.