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03 May 2012, 10:23 pm

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I mean this if it is the faithul following their beliefs and faith why does it bother you even if their was no religion these things would still take place.


And if there was no religion then all of the genocides over the years also would have happened for different reasons (most likely). Are you going to defend all of those as well?


Not true genocides happened under stalin a atheist and pol pot and mao geneocide would happen even if their was no religion.


Your point? Atheists have committed genocide, theists have committed genocide (Hitler comes to mind, Catholic :p ).

My point was that if there was no religion, those genocides would have still happened with a different excuse. You claim the same thing about the atrocities committed in the bible and that god commands you do to. Will you stand up and defend all those genocides as "people following their beliefs?"


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03 May 2012, 10:24 pm

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And abacacus Chritians do not follow every law in the bible why do you think we follow everyone of thsoe laws do you not even realise how many laws their are in the bible no christain can follow all of them. Not following them does not make a christian unchristian.


It makes you a great bunch of hypocrites :lol:

"I can't follow all these laws, BUT IF YOU DON'T YOU'RE GONNA GO TO HELL!"

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How so because we follow the laws that are the most important like the ten commandents or becasue you seem to have thsi idea that we should follow them all. And those laws are for the religious you don't have to follow then Abacacus because your a non theist which is fine it only makes the faithful more faithful when people don't believe in God.


You are aware the Ten Commandments are Old Testament right? The book you don't follow? :p


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04 May 2012, 1:10 pm

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I mean this if it is the faithul following their beliefs and faith why does it bother you even if their was no religion these things would still take place.


And if there was no religion then all of the genocides over the years also would have happened for different reasons (most likely). Are you going to defend all of those as well?


Not true genocides happened under stalin a atheist and pol pot and mao geneocide would happen even if their was no religion.


Your point? Atheists have committed genocide, theists have committed genocide (Hitler comes to mind, Catholic :p ).

My point was that if there was no religion, those genocides would have still happened with a different excuse. You claim the same thing about the atrocities committed in the bible and that god commands you do to. Will you stand up and defend all those genocides as "people following their beliefs?"


Of course not because their is no scriputure in the bible saying though shall commit genocide but atheists doing it for a diffrent reason is irrealivant the fact is they still did it.



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04 May 2012, 1:12 pm

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And abacacus Chritians do not follow every law in the bible why do you think we follow everyone of thsoe laws do you not even realise how many laws their are in the bible no christain can follow all of them. Not following them does not make a christian unchristian.


It makes you a great bunch of hypocrites :lol:

"I can't follow all these laws, BUT IF YOU DON'T YOU'RE GONNA GO TO HELL!"

:lol:


How so because we follow the laws that are the most important like the ten commandents or becasue you seem to have thsi idea that we should follow them all. And those laws are for the religious you don't have to follow then Abacacus because your a non theist which is fine it only makes the faithful more faithful when people don't believe in God.


You are aware the Ten Commandments are Old Testament right? The book you don't follow? :p


Yes I do follow both books btw just not every law as I have stated doing so would take a lot of work teh laws of moses are over 613 laws of moses to follow none of them have anything to do with killing infants but following all of them would be hard to do for a Jew or a Christian or Muslim :lol:



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04 May 2012, 1:14 pm

Joker wrote:
abacacus wrote:
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I mean this if it is the faithul following their beliefs and faith why does it bother you even if their was no religion these things would still take place.


And if there was no religion then all of the genocides over the years also would have happened for different reasons (most likely). Are you going to defend all of those as well?


Not true genocides happened under stalin a atheist and pol pot and mao geneocide would happen even if their was no religion.


Your point? Atheists have committed genocide, theists have committed genocide (Hitler comes to mind, Catholic :p ).

My point was that if there was no religion, those genocides would have still happened with a different excuse. You claim the same thing about the atrocities committed in the bible and that god commands you do to. Will you stand up and defend all those genocides as "people following their beliefs?"


Of course not because their is no scriputure in the bible saying though shall commit genocide but atheists doing it for a diffrent reason is irrealivant the fact is they still did it.


Actually, those who engaged in such practices were Communists, and did it because part of their state's ideology was anti-religion. Blood has been spilled in the name of religion, time and again, but in the name of atheism? Not particularly


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04 May 2012, 1:24 pm

Never said it was in the name of Atheism but Atheism is still one of the core beliefs of communism but not all communists and not all christian in the year 2012 kill in the name of religion if they do their fanatical which means they twist the bible their often racist views and radical ideas using religion as a scapegoat to do so.



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04 May 2012, 1:49 pm

I do not like to be one to say stuff like this, but; Your sentence structuring makes me cringe :/ you're lucky I deal with Quebecois who barely speak English on a regular basis, or I may not be so good at deciphering your posts


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04 May 2012, 1:51 pm

I don't know how to use grammar or punctuation nor do I understnad grammar or punctuation rules :wink:



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04 May 2012, 1:59 pm

Well, take some time out of your day, and instead of reading the Bible or Batman comic books, use some online resources to help you improve that. You can only benefit.


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04 May 2012, 2:01 pm

I read Doom Patrol Or Joker comics and Read the bible on Sunday the day of rest :wink:



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04 May 2012, 2:06 pm

The Bible for the day of rest? Ouch. That might be the most stressful piece of literature in existence


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04 May 2012, 2:10 pm

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The Bible for the day of rest? Ouch. That might be the most stressful piece of literature in existence


Not really reading books on Quantum Physics can be stressful. And I would be careful that almost sounds insulting the Mods will not like such a post :wink:



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04 May 2012, 2:16 pm

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The Bible for the day of rest? Ouch. That might be the most stressful piece of literature in existence


Not really reading books on Quantum Physics can be stressful. And I would be careful that almost sounds insulting the Mods will not like such a post :wink:


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04 May 2012, 2:16 pm

Shrox you always crack me up that was funny :lol:



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04 May 2012, 4:23 pm

Joker wrote:
abacacus wrote:
Joker wrote:
abacacus wrote:
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And abacacus Chritians do not follow every law in the bible why do you think we follow everyone of thsoe laws do you not even realise how many laws their are in the bible no christain can follow all of them. Not following them does not make a christian unchristian.


It makes you a great bunch of hypocrites :lol:

"I can't follow all these laws, BUT IF YOU DON'T YOU'RE GONNA GO TO HELL!"

:lol:


How so because we follow the laws that are the most important like the ten commandents or becasue you seem to have thsi idea that we should follow them all. And those laws are for the religious you don't have to follow then Abacacus because your a non theist which is fine it only makes the faithful more faithful when people don't believe in God.


You are aware the Ten Commandments are Old Testament right? The book you don't follow? :p


Yes I do follow both books btw just not every law as I have stated doing so would take a lot of work teh laws of moses are over 613 laws of moses to follow none of them have anything to do with killing infants but following all of them would be hard to do for a Jew or a Christian or Muslim :lol:


Make up your mind. First you say you don't follow the OT, now you say you do. You're picking and choosing your faith. You aren't a christian, you're a guy making his own little religion out of an old book.


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04 May 2012, 4:27 pm

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Of course not because their is no scriputure in the bible saying though shall commit genocide but atheists doing it for a diffrent reason is irrealivant the fact is they still did it.


You're missing my point in a truly spectacular way.

What I'm saying is, the people who committed/commanded those genocides were just following their beliefs... like the christians you defended. WHy will you defend a christian committing atrocities like burning people alive, but not other atrocities?


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