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14 Aug 2012, 9:13 pm

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Should be the government be promoting love?

other governments more enlightened than our own [yank] promote the general welfare and happiness, so it is only proper to extend that, to one-up the other more civilized nations of earth by being the first one to officially promote love. :idea:

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14 Aug 2012, 9:24 pm

I'm in an interracial relationship.

If the woman I am dating thought, for one minute, that I was with her simply because of her race, she'd punch me right in the face, and I would deserve it.

People fall in love with who they fall in love with. There should be no promotion, nor discouragement, from without. It's a decision to be made by the people involved -- and no one else -- and, if it's going to last, there had better be better reasons than skin color.


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15 Aug 2012, 1:56 am

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In general, lots of mixed-and-matched genes leads not only to hybrid vigor (heterozygosity) on an individual level, but allows for greater independent assortment of genes and therefore greater ability for natural and sexual selection to work, leading to a healthier population overall.


So for purely scientific reasons, it's a good idea (even if socially it's not all roses)?

I wouldn't say that it's a good idea for 'scientific' reasons, but it is a good idea for genetic reasons in terms of long-term (ie, over many, many generations) evolutionary fitness and immunological vigor; as you indicate, that completely ignores the sociological aspects of the question. I am unqualified to speak on the latter.



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15 Aug 2012, 1:57 am

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I'd say, and this is outright racism but also outright truth, that these things depend very much on the ethnic groups you select. It is a measurable fact, unfortunately, that some ethnic groups have several times as much risk of debilitating or even lethal medical and psychological conditions, sometimes latent and sometimes active, and are on average significantly less intelligent. It was said even by respected medical authorities, between the lines, that mixing that material into any other ethnicity would simply damage the other ethnicity because their risk of mental retardation, schizophrenia and even some lethal medical conditions is simply much, much higher and their average intelligence is known to be lower due to the extreme prevalence of mental retardation and inbreeding.

Basically, many ethnicities just have a lot of genetic material that's been damaged or ruined.

It's settled: get rid of Caucasians, they're too inbred!(/sarcasm) (there's as much genetic diversity on the continent of Africa as in the rest of the world combined)
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15 Aug 2012, 10:46 am

auntblabby wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
Should be the government be promoting love?

other governments more enlightened than our own [yank] promote the general welfare and happiness, so it is only proper to extend that, to one-up the other more civilized nations of earth by being the first one to officially promote love. :idea:

p.s.- "bumsecks" is the best kind. :bounce:


There are some governments (Singapore, Korea, possibly Japan) that are trying to increase the birthrate. The love of money has supplanted the love of fellow humans. I think that they are trying to promote marriage, followed by vaginal coitus.



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15 Aug 2012, 11:49 am

And in Japan, the people are so culturally shy that many have given up on finding a mate, making the birthrate of the future look dismal.

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15 Aug 2012, 2:20 pm

Are you trying to tell us that there is an entire of nation of aspies in the world?



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15 Aug 2012, 3:02 pm

Y'know - - I hadn't thought of that. But now that you mention it... :lol:

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15 Aug 2012, 5:37 pm

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It's settled: get rid of Caucasians, they're too inbred!(/sarcasm) (there's as much genetic diversity on the continent of Africa as in the rest of the world combined)


Well, we "Caucasians" apparently have some Neanderthal ancestry.

http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/hominid ... et-a-date/

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That's a whole different species, you know. African Homo sapiens apparently didn't breed with Neanderthals.



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15 Aug 2012, 6:23 pm

I can still remember back when I was in college when the consensus was that Neanderthals were sub-human creatures who couldn't compete with us modern ubermenchen.
My anthropology professor had had enough sense to disregard that foolishness.

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15 Aug 2012, 7:48 pm

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I can still remember back when I was in college when the consensus was that Neanderthals were sub-human creatures who couldn't compete with us modern ubermenchen.
My anthropology professor had had enough sense to disregard that foolishness.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Why are the Neanderthals no longer around?

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15 Aug 2012, 8:48 pm

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I can still remember back when I was in college when the consensus was that Neanderthals were sub-human creatures who couldn't compete with us modern ubermenchen.
My anthropology professor had had enough sense to disregard that foolishness.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Why are the Neanderthals no longer around?

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Look in the mirror, and a little piece of Neanderthal ancestry will look back at you.
Modern Homo Sapiens very probably came to outnumber the small Neanderthal population, and simply absorbed those who might have survived being bred out or purposefully murdered (which seems to be a failing of us humans).

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16 Aug 2012, 5:56 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I can still remember back when I was in college when the consensus was that Neanderthals were sub-human creatures who couldn't compete with us modern ubermenchen.
My anthropology professor had had enough sense to disregard that foolishness.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Why are the Neanderthals no longer around?

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Look in the mirror, and a little piece of Neanderthal ancestry will look back at you.
Modern Homo Sapiens very probably came to outnumber the small Neanderthal population, and simply absorbed those who might have survived being bred out or purposefully murdered (which seems to be a failing of us humans).

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I am talking about full blood Neanderthals with barrel chests, short legs, elongated skulls and arms twice as thick as yours or mine. I am talking about the Neanderthals who never produced any artwork. Where did they go and if they are gone, then why?

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16 Aug 2012, 6:11 am

ruveyn wrote:
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ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I can still remember back when I was in college when the consensus was that Neanderthals were sub-human creatures who couldn't compete with us modern ubermenchen.
My anthropology professor had had enough sense to disregard that foolishness.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Why are the Neanderthals no longer around?

ruveyn


Look in the mirror, and a little piece of Neanderthal ancestry will look back at you.
Modern Homo Sapiens very probably came to outnumber the small Neanderthal population, and simply absorbed those who might have survived being bred out or purposefully murdered (which seems to be a failing of us humans).

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I am talking about full blood Neanderthals with barrel chests, short legs, elongated skulls and arms twice as thick as yours or mine. I am talking about the Neanderthals who never produced any artwork. Where did they go and if they are gone, then why?

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If you can locate one, I think the scientific community would be salivating with glee.
As for the charge that they had never produced any art work - while that has been the standard pitch by anthropologists and archaeologists, I recently saw an article in a science magazine (I'm afraid I don't recall the name) that argued some cave paintings and jewelry seems to predate the arrival of modern humans, and could possibly be attributed to Neanderthals.

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16 Aug 2012, 8:09 am

ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I can still remember back when I was in college when the consensus was that Neanderthals were sub-human creatures who couldn't compete with us modern ubermenchen.
My anthropology professor had had enough sense to disregard that foolishness.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Why are the Neanderthals no longer around?

ruveyn


Look in the mirror, and a little piece of Neanderthal ancestry will look back at you.
Modern Homo Sapiens very probably came to outnumber the small Neanderthal population, and simply absorbed those who might have survived being bred out or purposefully murdered (which seems to be a failing of us humans).

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I am talking about full blood Neanderthals with barrel chests, short legs, elongated skulls and arms twice as thick as yours or mine. I am talking about the Neanderthals who never produced any artwork. Where did they go and if they are gone, then why?

ruveyn


You have never watched pro-wrestling I assume.


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16 Aug 2012, 9:29 am

Here is Russian boxer Nicolai Valuev

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Perhaps the Soviets had an experiment to recreate Neanderthals through selective breeding?