Why do atheists care about the beliefs of others?

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I'm with you. Occam's Razor. That's fair.

Best Regards,

Jake

They're most likely tired of hearing religion-relevant things all the time, people trying to convert them, etc. Some much rather prefer for religion to be best kept at private. (But...TLC...) They may also feel the need to ''correct'' them, so they live a life independent from that religion. I'm not an atheist myself, but that's my guess. Though, theists also aim to ''correct'' others, which goes in an ongoing cycle of bickering.

I had to look up "parsimony".

Uh... that's not circular. Circular would be saying "Atheism is not a religion, therefore Atheism is not a religion." I'm not sure how much more simply I can put it than "Atheism is the lack of religion", and I can't understand why you're having trouble grasping such a simple concept. Atheism involves no beliefs, it involves the lack of beliefs in things that are not proven to be true. I will assume something is false until proven true in some way, even if it's just a proof of logic (like often happens in science before testing happens).

Read away here about Atheist charities...

No.

ruveyn

Atheism is the withholding or denial of belief in the existence of the gods, for lack of evidence that the gods exist.

Why should anyone believe X is there is no evidences to support X?

ruveyn

Why are you sounding so condescending? Atheism is the lack of belief in any deities



Atheism is a belief, therefore, it is a religion. A religion in and of itself. A religion of non-belief.

Good job on finding those charities. I thought it was Atheist code to do only what benefits you . I learned something new today.

My only downside I can say is those Charities have a political agenda. They only benefit the non-religious. They do not include everybody.


Best Regards,

Jake

It's an absence of a belief rather than a belief in itself.

If I didn't believe in nationalism, would that make me a believer in anti-nationalism? Not necessarily.

I sound condescending because I've had this debate so many hundreds of times that I'm quite tired of it. Religious folk seem so keen to tell me I'm religious too, just in a different way, when they're incorrect.

Here's a tip bud, beliefs do not equal religions. Never have, never will. If I believe that it will snow tomorrow, that is not a religion. Your argument is based on something completely false.

Atheist code? What Atheist code? We don't have one. There is no Atheist Code of Conduct, Ten Commandments of Atheism, or any such thing. We just do our own individual thing. There are some organized groups of Atheists, but you'll find that the vast majority of those are political groups or, in some regions, support groups.

Um, may I ask where there it says that those charities only aid Atheists? Did you even read any of the paragraphs describing the charities? Here's the first one:

"Atheist Centre of India supports intercaste marriages and actively works to end child marriages and caste separation. The also provide aid to women in distress such as single mothers and prostitutes and promote equality of the sexes. Their education campaigns are designed to fight dangerous superstitions and practices such as witch hunts which can result in harm to innocent people.

Atheist Centre provides many services such as a Working Women's Hostel and a home for women with social problems. One of their programs, Vasavya Centre for Social Development, provides outreach services for more than 50 villages. The outreach program includes education, health care, advanced medical care including eye banks and corneal transplants, social programs, training for women, counseling and career guidance, drug and alcohol rehabilitation, sanitation facilities, drinking water facilities, sex education and contraception education, youth programs, and crèches for children along with many other humanitarian services."

Where in there does it say that only Atheists qualify for their aid?

Here, NAKnight - have a read of this. The article nicely debunks the atheism = religion myth by setting out how atheists have only one opinion in common. Atheism has no clearly defined rules, no belief about the end of the world, no philosophy of how the correct adherent should live their lives, no orthodoxy (mainstream or otherwise), no beliefs on sexuality, how to treat people or how to pray. It has nothing. It just means a disbelief in gods. You could be an ultra-conservative atheist, or a massively hedonistic atheist, or a bored of life atheist, or a spiritual atheist, or whatever you like.

Many atheists are also secularists (as am I), but also some of the world's most influential people who were religious were in fact secularists too.

@Abascus

Thank you. You've made your point.

@Tequilla

I looked over the article. Thanks for sharing.

Best Regards,

Jake

Well, it's been an interesting discussion. Learned something new tonight.

Best Regards,

Jake

That's why atheists often laugh at and ridicule the idea of an "atheist orthodoxy" - because it reminds them of... religion!

If people were annoyed by being confronted with atheism, though, you'd think that was intolerant, wouldn't you?

I'm sure you suffer greatly from the existence of synagogues. /sarcasm



Apples to oranges. You can suspect there are mice in your cupboard, you can suspect there are no mice in your cupboard, you could not care or think about it either way. The latter two are different.



Is that supposed to be a joke of some sort? There are plenty of atheists who act altruistically.

Well, to be fair, probably if they had no agenda, atheism wouldn't have anything to do with it. Atheists could just make their contributions to society without stating their particular beliefs/lack thereof, and people just wouldn't notice. Besides, they could have been using the reasoning that religious charities would benefit adherents of those religions enough, so it would even out.



It is quite definitely a belief, at least.

I won't believe there are mice in the cupboard if there's no reason to.

And whether or not I would care or think about it is dependent upon whether or not there's someone out there who insists that there are mice inside when I had just looked inside the cupboard and seen nothing.

-- I care about the beliefs of others because I'm interested in other people.

-- I'm not interested in convincing people to be irreligious. There's nothing wrong with being religious.

-- Almost all - possibly all - the religious people I know don't believe that others will go to hell for not sharing their beliefs. This isn't the Dark Ages.