What transgender activists don't want you to know...

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I fail to see why the colour of their skin would be relevant to anything, unless I was describing them to someone - in which case I would mention the colour of their skin, not some meta-identity of their's. What if the 'black' person was born with white skin, because of a de novo mutation? I'm not talking about albinos here, by the way.

Anyway, just what *are* you basing your ideas on, Kurgan? You said skeletal features - then changed your mind. You said chromosomes - then changed your mind.

But I ask again - if someone is born with testicles, but lacking a penis are consequently raised as a girl, are they a man or a woman? If so, how are they functionally different from a transwoman who transitions at an early age?

I don't know where you're getting these ideas about toddlers from - certainly not from, ya' know, science. At least, not anything that would actually support your position. So, most males prefer playing with cars and most girls with dolls. What about the ones who buck that trend, perhaps because they identify with the opposite sex more?

"Biologically speaking". Care to elaborate? By "biologically speaking", you seem to be talking about chromosomes, but then won't accept that people with AIS are men. You also haven't given me the signed bit of paper I asked for, which states that you will accept as a woman anyone who undergoes gene therapy to replace their y chromosome with an x chromosome... ;p Stick-your-neck-out-and-make-a-prediction-or-shut-up rules of Muggle science.

Exactly. Your opponents fail to address the "trans-racial" issue, which is analogous to the transgender issue. Women are an oppressed class, so one would expect it to be just as offensive for a man to say he's a woman as it would be for a white person to say he's black, as black people are also an oppressed class (q.v. blackface).

Race is not sex.

Race is primarily a social phenomenon rather than a biological one. The genetic differences between races are minimal, and don't account for the differences between black and white people. For example, black people are more likely to be imprisoned by white people due to social factors. The "real" differences between black and white people are minimal.

The differences between men and women, on the other hand, have a significant genetic basis (a whole chromosome), and by extension neurological and hormonal bases. There are "real" differences between them that there aren't in the case of race (although of course many of the differences are due to social factors). However, our body is extremely complicated and all sorts of things could mimic the effects of a genetic difference. Someone could have a neurological difference or hormonal change that means they "feel" like a man, even though they have a woman's genitals. However, the idea of someone having a neurological or hormonal difference that makes them "feel" black is ludicrous.

And me who thought that wrongplanet was a safe place. It seems like so much people hate "trannies" and they LOVES to mention how they just consider us to be men. It's a good thing that I'm not visiting this place much anymore. I don't think I'll come here anymore.

Does anyone else remember when this is the exact same type of argument used back in the day to justify the marginalization of homosexuals (i.e. this morning)?

So some a**hole wrote a blog, without even citing any real information or studies, just a bunch of rhetoric is what it sounds like.

The brother and sister next door to me grew up with a gay biological dad (and a straight mom).

Who doesnt know people with atleast one homosexual biological parent?

Millions of people have 'homosexual parents'.

I dont much like working some days on my job, but I do it anyway to survive.Likewise a homosexual can still have sex with their opposite sex spouse with the right societal pressure.

Millions of gay adults get married, and sire kids,despite their disinterest in hetero sexual activity because having kids is "the thing to do", or to please their parents, or because they love kids, or they wants kids to take care of them in their old age, and for all the other reasons that heterosexuals have kids-save one- having kids as a result of the heterosexual sex drive. And this happened for thousands of years before "artificial insemination".

So this guy really has his head up his rear end.