The Myth of Confidence
15 Nov 2013, 6:12 pm
AngelRho wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
As an aside AngelRho, will you come look at this and tell me what you think of my questions and my responses to other people's questions? http://www.wrongplanet.net/postx244977-15-0.html
You mean "Can God create a rock so heavy He can't even lift it?"
Ugh...
Stay out of silly discussions like that. Don't even attempt logic with those. Instead, you should be rolling on the floor laughing that people ask these questions and somehow think they are intellectual giants because questions like these are guaranteed to stump people who believe in God. You should be laughing because these people are intellectually weak and dishonest. They're trolling...and may not even be aware that they're trolling. Don't waste your time on it.
Here's why:
Those kinds of questions are based on word-game nonsense. You can't possibly answer without your own answer being as absurd as the question. You've lost the instant you honestly try to answer the question. I have two responses.
1. Can water not be wet?
The point being that nothing can be more or less what its own nature causes it to be. Water is wet because that's what water IS. God by His very nature is a perfect being, and a perfect being would not stoop to contradict Himself or His nature. If God is omnipotent, it does stand to reason that God COULD possibly create such a rock--but the very idea that God would do something contradictory to His own nature--create something greater than Himself or impossible for Him to do, is absurd.
Also, there's a false assumption behind the question. Suppose God really COULD go against His own nature and create something higher than Himself. Why assume that the ability to do something DEMANDS that He actually do it? Declining to do something that violates His own nature by no means contradicts the God's character trait of omnipotence.
2. This one is a purposefully absurd response to an absurd question: God very well COULD make that rock too heavy for Him to lift...and then LIFT IT!! !
Questions like these constitute silly word-play. It's like asking how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. Save yourself the grief. Never argue with an idiot. He'll pull you down to his level and beat you with experience.
AngelRho, the rock question is an absurd question because God has control over the parameters of both himself and the rock and God can't be a contradiction because of his holy nature. I never would have thought of the water and the wetness to it though. To me, God's holiness is similar to the diameter of the circle. The circle has both infinite components which are governed by the diameter. It's the same thing with God having infinite components like omniscience, omnipotence and his holiness. I call God's holiness God's diameter.
Your logic is very much spot on.
Now back to attitude
I will be honest with you thought AngelRho. I have issues with this whole attitude and the way it is done. The way it is done in America like you said is psychological. I look at it more from the scientific. The way it is setup which based upon its' nature it is impossible to have a null hypothesis to reject because if one was to think otherwise of anything else besides attitude causing a certain inability it would be considered negative. People especially self-help gurus have wrote about this in their papers that if one tries to disprove it, one automatically is being negative. Is it possible to conduct a scientific experiment on oneself or have others do one on you to determine if the null hypothesis, which is the negation of attitude meaning something else could be causing one to fail? How does one determine if attitude or the negation is causing certain failures? I have always been told that it's my attitude? How is it always possible to reject the null hypothesis in all cases?
This does not negate the fact that there is some truth to it and I do accept that. The car example showed that it was my attitude that was giving me issues but I was able to negate the thought patterns. How does one tell what is what?
