Josh Duggar and Ashley Madison.

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Possibly so. Too much fun can certainly get out of hand.

It's more than just him having fun. For one thing, he married a conservative Christian girl who was raised in the same sort of family as he who expected the same kind of marriage as hers and his parents. Then he lobbied the government on behalf of his family's rigid beliefs. He robocalled my mother on behalf of this neocon candidate James Lankford for US Senate, who was running to take the place of Tea Party Senator Tom Coburn and who also won the election. Then we go and find out all this stuff about him. He's just like everyone else. He's putting on a fake front. So why should anyone have to go by the strict guidelines just because of him? He doesn't go by them.

Yeah, man. He robocalls people. Something else you didn't know about him.

Lol, nice. People can accept a lot of s**t, but one thing they don't like is robocalls. Thanks for pointing that out. In fact, that should have been the title of the thread: Josh Duggar robocalls people!

Don't you consider it a bit disturbing Josh Duggar robocalled thousands of people on behalf of ultra family values candidate James Lankford, and Lankford won, all the while Duggar is going screwing porn stars, strippers, paying them thousands of dollars, all while his wife is taking care of his kids, without knowing what's going on, believing she has the kind of marriage JB and Michelle or Ma and Pa Keller have?
That's nothing but lies and corruption.

Yeah, he's a media personality, I don't expect much out of them in the way of morals, even if they're a Christian media personality. Hell, if they're a Christian media personality I half expect there to be tons of hypocrisy going on behind the camera. You can't be talking about ministering to the poor and the "eye of the needle" and all that stuff while at the same time clearing seven figures from your media contract and donating none of it and consider yourself a Christian that's true to the word. Maybe I'm just jaded and desensitized.

But the robocall thing, that's that type of annoying behavior that could actually change peoples hearts and minds, lol.

Josh Duggar was a lobbiest for the Family Research Council! He went far beyond media personality! Now he's got a financial firm called Cornerstone Financial. And here I thought he would be a used car salesman his entire life! I felt comfortable with him in that field. I thought I am so glad all they (he and Anna) are doing is selling used cars. Anna was actually working in the office so it hasn't always been about the women staying at home. The little one was there too, their daughter. They seemed so normal back then.
Unfortunately, it didn't last. Word got out the cars were flooded rejects bought at auctions, I guess. I remember watching an episode of 17 or 18 Kids & Counting right after Nashville got flooded and the Duggars were on the internet scouting out good buys on flooded vehicles.

Well, at least they believe in recycling!

All of them believe in that. There's been episodes all about thrift store clothing.

Oh stop it! You might make me start to empathize with them...

If I recall, there's been an episode or two (and an Aldi episode) about potted meat or some other cheap food. I remember thinking, is all they can afford to feed all them kids *scratches head* and the kids looked paler and thinner but then TLC gave them more shows and money and everyone began looking less wan.

That makes me conflicted...I'm glad the kids got fed, but I'm also concerned that it will entice them to breed more.

Although I never really felt totally creeped out by Josh Duggar while watching a few episodes of those early shows, the one that did make my skin crawl from time to time was Jim Bob. I sensed he was the type of guy who could get really angry about stuff. It was the episode with the boys and the pup that gave me that impression. They had gone on vacation or something and JB had to return home with the boys because of this puppy they had that had gotten loose or something. It's been years since I've seen that episode. You could tell the only reason JB was keeping his cool was due to the camera being there but that anger - it was boiling beneath the surface.

JimBob and Michelle beat their kids. Every time they're asked about it, they sidestep the question.

And then they force everyone to put on their happy face and perform for the camera except Josh finds ways to draw attention to his unhappiness. Now they have him locked away in some Christian labor camp without any access to real treatment. It's like a monastery for people from strict, Christian families who suffer a lifetime of spiritual abuse and can't take it anymore. It's better than jail, they rationalize. Who knows what lurks inside those walls. The spiritually discarded and abandoned.

It'll just be Josh and the "recovering" gays.

It's going to be The Discarded from all these extreme religious families. They warehouse everyone that doesn't fit into their religion in these institutes saying they are influenced by the devil and need God to take Satan away.

Some of them could be gay while others might have drug or alcohol problems. Some might be like Josh, suffering from sexual dysfunctions and addictions. Some could have mental conditions. Most likely all were home schooled not that I think homeschooling in itself as bad but never to preserve some rigid spiritual abuse. Home schooling should be a means of teaching when other options aren't conducive to a positive outcome, not to isolate on religious grounds where it is utilized as a programming tool. No one knows who's in these mammoth structures or what happens to them. It's where fundies send the ones in their families they cannot deal with and no one knows much about it because they must save face and fear judgment from other Christians.
I see it as an asylum of days gone by only they use religion instead of outdated therapies like insulin and cold water. No one really knows who is inside these places because it's not like they are actual hospitals or treatment centers and churches don't have to report anything.

Once they put the reprobates in places such as this, their family looks righteous in the eyes of the God fearing again so they can forget their system ever produces anyone besides the righteous.