Is it Politically correct to be ashamed of being Caucasian?
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Only whites have the privilege to be considered an individual by society. ..
Must be nice!
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Yes no one sees anyone but white people as individuals, and no white people are ever negatively blanket generalized
I do.
I said it before that "I avoid low class whites".
I have had all sorts of troubles with this group.
Their economic difficulties become your problem.
Meh and I avoid yuppies, snobs, and people who judge a persons character or worth on how much money they have, their attitude makes me feel dirty. And their apathy at addressing poverty and the vast chasm between poorest and richest becomes a big problem for all of society.
But I digress to be white and in poverty can bring plenty of judgement and negative blanket generalizations as this loving character 'LoveNotHate' has demonstrated.
That's my point. When whites are lumped together, it's usually as much about class as anything else. AND it's usually done by upper class whites (the dominant group in American society).
Think of any derogatory term for whites... white/trailer trash, redneck, cracker... they all carry connotations about being poor as well as being white.
The mentality that drives racism also drives classism.
Yes they are driven by the same sort of thing.....blame the minorities and the poor for the systematic problems created by the wealthy and powerful ruling class. Just can never see why people don't see through that BS.
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When someone buys a home a realtor drives them around to neighborhoods.
They see the kind of people living in those neighborhoods.
If the people look like white trash/poor whites, then their opinion is formed by that observation.
For example, say a neighborhood is mostly "rednecks", then most may be prejudice against these "low class whites" and say, "let's keep looking".
Would you live near these people ....

Well if you get rid of the stupid hats, it kind of reminds me of what you might see in Northern Minnesota out in the country...more or less, except not sure everyone in a group would be able to afford a gun and their clothes probably wouldn't be as clean. I have family out there so I've had some exposure...
I myself live in a much more Urban area of Colorado and more hang out with metal-heads, punks and other sort of rocker and/or hippie types. I have met a couple people here and there who are more well off, but most anyone I know would certainly be considered poor....but I suppose there are those more well off people that would rather hang out with people like that regardless of economic status than sticking to their own 'class'.
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There are racist minorities who hate white people. So should you feel bad because of their character flaws? In my opinion, no. A racist minority is a hpyocrite. Feeling anger about being discriminated against is understandable. But using the actions of some members of a group to justify hating every member of that group is not morally defensible. Every ethnic group in the world has done something to hurt another ethnic group. No ethnic group has the moral authority to judge another.
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I have heard a belief some Japanese hold that they have to stay in their race to keep the bloodline pure, so in that case its not so much because they've been discriminated against...but yeah this isn't specifically japanese-americans its in Japan too. So its not just white people who have played around with that kind of thinking.
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I would prefer NOT to live near the gun-toting dudes in that ^picture^. Does that make me biased against whites (as they appeare in the image), or am I only biased against their weapon-bearing and country-living culture?
FWIW, THESE white-looking men I WOULD move in next to:
Re: Surnames...According to what I've read on various websites, the majority of those with my last name are black.
I would say my spouse's maiden name was even more black sounding than mine.
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I dislike blanket generalizations like this because it's just not a fact like many people try to portray it as. You can say it's generally true for a certain demographic, or for certain areas, but I've found that every city and town and state have their own way of doing things. We're not the richest, but we're not the poorest either, and we don't discriminate against people just because of their economic status or skin color/racial heritage. There are morons in every group, and those are the ones I avoid. I don't care how much money you have, if you're a jerk, I won't deal with you.
That bit in bold is a pretty dangerous and unhelpful generalization... The truth is, humans are wired for antipathy toward the 'different other.'
Everyone discriminates. The trick is to be self-aware, be conscious of your biases and keep them in check.
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/index.jsp
You're on a board for people who are not wired the same as most other humans, though. I looked through the tests, but they don't make sense to me. They expect a correct answer from you and have a big red X if you fail, as well as having it timed. That's like an experiment with mice to see how quickly they learn what you want from them. I don't see how that can measure whether or not someone is actually biased. Also, I would imagine people who have been raised in specific religions, cultures, or with certain heritage would be able to pick out traditional garb more easily than an average person anyway, such as with the "Native American or White" one. It's about recognizing certain cultures, traditional garb, or knowing whether or not Antarctica is part of America or not. How does that show bias?
As for the guys with guns, I honestly don't care. We didn't look at who we were moving next to when we bought our house, we looked at the general neighborhood and the fact that it was really close to my husband's work. We preferred not to move somewhere that was known for gang violence, though my BIL did move to a crime ridden neighborhood (though has had no problems). I've been friends with really rich people as well as homeless and they're just people. They're all just human, with their own problems and ideas.
Think of it as looking at a human body. When you just glance at a person, you can tell they're human. When you start looking at them, you start seeing details, like color of eyes and hair and skin. Look closer, you see the wrinkles, and then even closer, you see all the different organs, blood vessels, veins, neurons, etc. Microscopic, you can see all the different cells. Each cell has its own job to do, everything has its part to play in making sure the human runs smoothly. It doesn't always, things go wrong, but ultimately part of the same machine. That's how I view humanity. We're like cells as individuals, and then as you zoom out, you see people as groups, as cultures, religions, skin color/heritage/facial structure, economic status... and when you zoom all the way out, you see just humans. We're all connected, we're all similar, we're all human. How am I to decide one is worth more than another just because they make someone else uncomfortable? Why should I feel someone is worthy of discrimination? I am utterly fascinated by humanity, even though I don't feel like I am human.
I want equality. I want people to treat others with respect whether or not they agree with them. I want equal treatment under the law whether someone is poor or rich. I want people to say hello to a poor person the same as a rich one, an African the same as an English. I know it's completely unreasonable, and will never happen, but I want it nonetheless.
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I am not ashamed to be northern European (Caucasian is something of a misnomer). I am not ashamed to be heterosexual. I would be ashamed if my actions besmirched either.
I've never owned slaves or adhered to that ideology.
This, except I am Puerto Rican, white and well, I too am supposed to be ashamed...no, sorry, I'm not ashamed even if those on the island feel that I should suck it up and put up with their abuse and nasty words towards me and what they consider my kind on the island because of what someone else did. Anytime they suggest I should just shut up and take it, I tell them I will the day they are ashamed of the shootings, drugs, etc. done daily by non-whites on the island...that usually ends their BS conversation.
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Which makes it funny to see Hispanics (~50% European ancestry) telling a "white person" of ~80% European ancestry , "YOU STOLE THIS LAND".
Not to mention the fact that they had no use for this land until we made the improvements, but now they want to immigrate in droves. I have seen estimates where they believe that their Spanish ancestors caused the deaths of millions of Native Americans.
Which is interesting because not long ago an article came out about natives in Mexico who had killed, raped and even eaten white settlers there...go figure...but of course, it didn't get much publicity.
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I'd just say foolish.
Blood-guilt is one of the most idiot concepts that we've come up with. For instance if you were born in 1980 you're not responsible for what happened up through 1980. You're also not responsible for what happened outside your sphere of experience up to this point. What you're responsible for is your own sphere of influence, what you have for capabilities, and the extent to which you use what capabilities you have to better the world that you can touch through actions or words (or prayer).
Past that you came out, got oiled, slapped, wrapped in linen, and slowly brought to deal with a circus that overwhelmingly isn't yours.
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they look like they know how to have a good time.
They probably do live near me! You can't walk into a dive bar around here without seeing dozens of guys who look like that and probably have just as many firearms.
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