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Why are people so against gay people?
Because they are a minority. 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Because they are afraid someone who is gay might hit on them. 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Because they think they will take over and the human race will go extinct as they can't reproduce. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Because they think it's against religion. 31%  31%  [ 11 ]
Because they find it disgusting. 34%  34%  [ 12 ]
Other. 29%  29%  [ 10 ]
Total votes : 35

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28 Nov 2015, 5:41 pm

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The explanation to me was not necessary, as what I said in no way indicated that I thought mania and psychosis were the same thing.


The subject was about what would make someone behave a certain way, so it was necessary to make a distinction to explain that, which was the main point I was trying to make.

I'm sorry it caused offense to you.


Yes, and my comment was that someone who is either manic or psychotic might be prone to religious twaddle, because people prone to mania and/or psychosis are often drawn in by religion because magical thinking is common in disorders that produce mania and/or psychosis. Many schizophrenics and people with bipolar disorder have religious-themed delusions.



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28 Nov 2015, 6:07 pm

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Yes, and my comment was that someone who is either manic or psychotic might be prone to religious twaddle, because people prone to mania and/or psychosis are often drawn in by religion because magical thinking is common in disorders that produce mania and/or psychosis. Many schizophrenics and people with bipolar disorder have religious-themed delusions.


Yes true, though I make distinction between the nature of psychotic episodes relate to those ideas rather than those grandiose delusions which are consistent for a longer period.

I have a hypothesis on magical thinking:
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=299198&p=6874963#p6874963

But I do make a distinction from episodic states. Or conditions schizophrenia or bipolar. Yes mania can also lead to religious delusions, but those that experience it can be quite different people when they are not manic.

My cousin is schizophrenic and I have had religious themed dialogue with him. When he is psychotic, it is obvious there is lack of concrete or consistent ideology. You can get a mixture though, I'm not saying it is set in stone.

Sorry if any offense was taken. I tend to treat this as an open discussion, even if I address you personally I'm merely taking comment of note, worthy of discussion. Offense is the last thing on my mind.

I'm not offended but I think the "act out" was the wrong way of describing especially with regards to psychosis. Perhaps you could say that from the perspective of the brain, but not the self function within it.



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28 Nov 2015, 6:13 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
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Yes, and my comment was that someone who is either manic or psychotic might be prone to religious twaddle, because people prone to mania and/or psychosis are often drawn in by religion because magical thinking is common in disorders that produce mania and/or psychosis. Many schizophrenics and people with bipolar disorder have religious-themed delusions.


Yes true, though I make distinction between the nature of psychotic episodes relate to those ideas rather than those grandiose delusions which are consistent for a longer period.

I have a hypothesis on magical thinking:
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=299198&p=6874963#p6874963

But I do make a distinction from episodic states. Or conditions schizophrenia or bipolar. Yes mania can also lead to religious delusions, but those that experience it can be quite different people when they are not manic.

My cousin is schizophrenic and I have had religious themed dialogue with him. When he is psychotic, it is obvious there is lack of concrete or consistent ideology. You can get a mixture though, I'm not saying it is set in stone.

Sorry if any offense was taken. I tend to treat this as an open discussion, even if I address you personally I'm merely taking comment of note, worthy of discussion. Offense is the last thing on my mind.

I'm not offended but I think the "act out" was the wrong way of describing especially with regards to psychosis. Perhaps you could say that from the perspective of the brain, but not the self function within it.


I accept your apology and thank you for it. I can be a little sensitive about some issues, perhaps I was a bit hasty. I apologise for saying you were rude.



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28 Nov 2015, 6:23 pm

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I accept your apology and thank you for it. I can be a little sensitive about some issues, perhaps I was a bit hasty. I apologise for saying you were rude.


No problem :)



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28 Nov 2015, 6:40 pm

I meant to first link to this
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28 Nov 2015, 7:08 pm

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The real "Anti-Christ" would be evil personified, as he would be the false Messiah.

In Islam, he would be "Masih ad-Dajjal", who will deceive humanity before the second coming of Jesus.

You see, I have read the prophesies; and they have not yet been fulfilled. Therefore, your claim actually makes you just another pretender to the title, and you have no power or authority beyond your own reach. So, by claiming that you are the "Anti-Christ", you also reveal yourself to be an imposter.

Quod Erat Demonstrandum


Coming from a different Christian tradition (Lutheran/mainline), the take on this particular subject is that the Bible speaks of someone being antichrist - with a small "a," being that such designations are given to those who oppose to Christ, rather than large "A" Antichrist, which is the notion that someone with superpowers who will carry out Satan's work on earth. Basically, we see someone who is antichrist like the late Jim Jones, who had perverted Christ's message, or in the case of Revelations, Nero, who tried to violently persecute the Christians out of existence. But we don't believe in someone who is Christ's evil twin.


So I feel I must ask: Given the recorded teachings of Jesus, would many of the current crop of hate & fear fostering pastors & megapastors, those who bend and twist the Bible into a tool to gain wealth and power fall under such a designation, either singly or as a group?


Those people fall into the category of the Prosperity Gospel, also called the Name It and Claim It theology. In my personal opinion, those people could be classified as being antichrist.


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29 Nov 2015, 3:27 am

Because people are stupid bible thumping religiatards thats why! Their God hates homosexuality so they follow the hatred!


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