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16 Feb 2016, 9:29 pm

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To me, picking apart anti-gun arguments are like popping balloons with a lit cigarette. It's a very easy position to attack where the opponent has no valid argument.
oh yeah? when have you done any of the above without whining about tone or non-existent ad hominem?

Find it.
Don't blame it if you can't name it.
pff so I should do your work for you then? you really can't back up anything you say, can you?


He's constantly demanding that I obsessively hunt through long past threads whenever I remind him of his bullying, or one of his other evidences of a disorder.


It takes me seconds or a few minutes at best to find most things. If you're clueless about using search functions to back your accusations that's your fault. That or you know you can't find anything.


Or maybe, just maybe, I have zero interest in placating you.

You seem to have a lot of interest in accusing me of things, though. Bullying here on WP is a sensitive topic with strong emotions attached to the word alone. You're obviously trying to use that to vilify me so you should at least have evidence, otherwise it could make you look like the bully.


If you had ever really lived the Aspie experience, you'd understand why I and other real Aspies hate bullying.


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16 Feb 2016, 9:31 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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It takes me seconds or a few minutes at best to find most things. If you're clueless about using search functions to back your accusations that's your fault. That or you know you can't find anything.
then it'll take just a few more seconds to paste the links. instead you've chosen to blow smoke and claim that we're lazy or clueless about things you should be doing yourself as YOU are making the claims. the burden of proof is on whoever makes claims, not the ones challenging the claims.


Spin things much?
I think your just sulking after tht ass whuppin Jacoby put on you over at the supreme court thread.


Again demeaning an opponent by bringing up something in a past thread.

That's an active thread, not a past one.

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You've tried that with me plenty of times.

Only the times when youve put you foot in your mouth.

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And no, I'm not going to search past threads to prove my point, as there's obviously no repercussions for your kind of behavior here as there would be with bullying at work. That's unless I reported you to the moderators, and I've already told you that's something I don't need to do.

Still can't find nothin' eh? :lol:
Well, bless your heart for trying.


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16 Feb 2016, 9:43 pm

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If you had ever really lived the Aspie experience....

Oh, now we're back to me not being a real Aspie once again because my experiences in life are different than yours. Okay.
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....you'd understand why I and other real Aspies hate bullying.

Which is why you're so freely tossing that label at me.
"Look everyone, Raptor is a BULLY! I can't provide evidence but who needs evidence when dealing with a BULLY?"
You should have been a state prosecutor...

I rest my case.


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16 Feb 2016, 9:48 pm

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You seem to have a lot of interest in accusing me of things, though. Bullying here on WP is a sensitive topic with strong emotions attached to the word alone. You're obviously trying to use that to vilify me so you should at least have evidence, otherwise it could make you look like the bully.
someone's certainly getting defensive over being asked to back up what they say. it's almost as if you are aware of how spurious your claims are....


More spinning.
Someone needs to turn the air pump for your fish tank back on.
I don't think you're getting enough oxygen.


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16 Feb 2016, 9:52 pm

Raptor wrote:
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You seem to have a lot of interest in accusing me of things, though. Bullying here on WP is a sensitive topic with strong emotions attached to the word alone. You're obviously trying to use that to vilify me so you should at least have evidence, otherwise it could make you look like the bully.
someone's certainly getting defensive over being asked to back up what they say. it's almost as if you are aware of how spurious your claims are....


More spinning.
Someone needs to turn the air pump for your fish tank back on.
I don't think you're getting enough oxygen.
another content free post. thanks for the continued white noise posting raptor.

some day you'll actually leave the kiddy pool and debate like an adult. guess that day's not today.



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16 Feb 2016, 11:04 pm

Fugu wrote:
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You seem to have a lot of interest in accusing me of things, though. Bullying here on WP is a sensitive topic with strong emotions attached to the word alone. You're obviously trying to use that to vilify me so you should at least have evidence, otherwise it could make you look like the bully.
someone's certainly getting defensive over being asked to back up what they say. it's almost as if you are aware of how spurious your claims are....


More spinning.
Someone needs to turn the air pump for your fish tank back on.
I don't think you're getting enough oxygen.
another content free post. thanks for the continued white noise posting raptor.

some day you'll actually leave the kiddy pool and debate like an adult. guess that day's not today.

1. The spinning part was spot on.
2. The kiddy pool would be a huge step up from a fish bowl.


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16 Feb 2016, 11:44 pm

You know what? I'm so goddamned sick and tired of the vitriol by all the parties involved in this thread I could puke my f!cking guts out! Please, moderators, lock this thread, and censure all the parties involved. While you're at it, permanently disable my account!



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16 Feb 2016, 11:58 pm

don't leave us!! :o



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17 Feb 2016, 1:02 am

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You know what? I'm so goddamned sick and tired of the vitriol by all the parties involved in this thread I could puke my f!cking guts out! Please, moderators, lock this thread, and censure all the parties involved. While you're at it, permanently disable my account!


It kind of begs the question of why are you reading something you find upsetting? Really, when I don't like a thread I totally ignore it. It's easy and it's free. :D
I'm guessing from past observances that your roommate is giving you fits again.


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17 Feb 2016, 2:10 am

Raptor wrote:
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If you had ever really lived the Aspie experience....

Oh, now we're back to me not being a real Aspie once again because my experiences in life are different than yours. Okay.
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....you'd understand why I and other real Aspies hate bullying.

Which is why you're so freely tossing that label at me.
"Look everyone, Raptor is a BULLY! I can't provide evidence but who needs evidence when dealing with a BULLY?"
You should have been a state prosecutor...

I rest my case.


The thing is, I don't know of a legitimate Aspie who hasn't been picked on growing up - and who isn't still haunted by the memory - with the single exception of you. So forgive me if I think that maybe you were always on the giving side of bullying, as you are now.


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17 Feb 2016, 2:10 am

What an unpleasant thread this has become due to the behaviour of a number of posters. If the gratuitous insults continue past this point it will be locked. Play the ball, not the man, and for those prompting the conflict from the sidelines for their own enjoyment, stop throwing fuel on the fire, it is trollish behaviour.



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17 Feb 2016, 2:32 am

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What an unpleasant thread this has become due to the behaviour of a number of posters. If the gratuitous insults continue past this point it will be locked. Play the ball, not the man, and for those prompting the conflict from the sidelines for their own enjoyment, stop throwing fuel on the fire, it is trollish behaviour.


You're absolutely right. And I agree, this thread has degenerated into such a slugfest that it should be locked.


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17 Feb 2016, 3:31 am

Well, is he wrong?

I mean, it's easy to label someone racist, bigoted, anti-Semitic (which is a silly term), and whatever, rather than dealing with the argument.

As far as I can see, the people he listed are strong anti-gun nuts, and they're Jewish.

Now, I'm sure there's a larger number of people of other religions/atheists in power that are anti-gun nuts, but is it unfair to list just one demographic if there's plenty of them? I say, yeah, it is, but it need not be "racist" or whatever if you do.



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17 Feb 2016, 4:17 am

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Well, is he wrong?

I mean, it's easy to label someone racist, bigoted, anti-Semitic (which is a silly term), and whatever, rather than dealing with the argument.

As far as I can see, the people he listed are strong anti-gun nuts, and they're Jewish.

Now, I'm sure there's a larger number of people of other religions/atheists in power that are anti-gun nuts, but is it unfair to list just one demographic if there's plenty of them? I say, yeah, it is, but it need not be "racist" or whatever if you do.


Because his targeting of Jews - of pointing out that they are Jews - is meat for Antisemitic racists out there. It's no surprise that this list of his has been used over and over on white supremacist websites. Sure, the individuals named are all Jewish, but it's obvious that this isn't just some innocent factoid by Nugent, but a deliberate means to convey his hate to a specific audience.


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17 Feb 2016, 9:14 am

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You know what? I'm so goddamned sick and tired of the vitriol by all the parties involved in this thread I could puke my f!cking guts out! Please, moderators, lock this thread, and censure all the parties involved. While you're at it, permanently disable my account!


It kind of begs the question of why are you reading something you find upsetting? Really, when I don't like a thread I totally ignore it. It's easy and it's free. :D
I'm guessing from past observances that your roommate is giving you fits again.


No, that paedophile (and he admitted that little factoid to one of my housemates, which explains why he had pre-pubescent boys hanging around here all the time) moved out 2 weeks ago. I'm having other problems, like the nightmares I had growing up, where the girls in my hometown were constantly beating on my fat ass and constantly were trying to get in my pants, then trying to do a Bobbit on me. I also have a few friends that I'm ready to tell them to take a flying f!ck off Steel Pier in Atlantic City. You know what? I could stand to lose a few more, starting with WP!



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17 Feb 2016, 1:26 pm

Meistersinger wrote:
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You know what? I'm so goddamned sick and tired of the vitriol by all the parties involved in this thread I could puke my f!cking guts out! Please, moderators, lock this thread, and censure all the parties involved. While you're at it, permanently disable my account!


It kind of begs the question of why are you reading something you find upsetting? Really, when I don't like a thread I totally ignore it. It's easy and it's free. :D
I'm guessing from past observances that your roommate is giving you fits again.


No, that paedophile (and he admitted that little factoid to one of my housemates, which explains why he had pre-pubescent boys hanging around here all the time) moved out 2 weeks ago. I'm having other problems, like the nightmares I had growing up, where the girls in my hometown were constantly beating on my fat ass and constantly were trying to get in my pants, then trying to do a Bobbit on me. I also have a few friends that I'm ready to tell them to take a flying f!ck off Steel Pier in Atlantic City. You know what? I could stand to lose a few more, starting with WP!


Too bad you hadn't known this about him previous to his moving out, or else you could have gotten him arrested.


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