Creeping Sharia: The Islamisation of the West
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skysaw wrote:
Tequila wrote:
Personally, I find Islam to be a deeply unpleasant, supremacist, misogynist and racist religion, particularly in the Deobandi/Salafi/Wahhabi strain that dominates today.
Lol 'racist' huh? Did your Zionist websites tell you that?
No, Tequila. Judaism is the racially supremacist religion. Islam is an ideologically supremacist yet racially universalist version of Judaism. But since your Zionist websites don't explain this to you I suppose it's too much to expect you to figure this out for yourself.
Yet Islam allows raping non-muslim women just because they're non-muslims of defeated tribes, these are things as bad as racist crimes.
You said it, "Islam is an ideologically supremacist yet racially universalist version of Judaism".
They both suck.
Also some caliphates did imply Arab-supremacist policies during their rule, why do they think today Farsi is written in Arabic script for instance? (which wasn't originally written in the Arabic script).

Translation: 99.9% of Muslims believe that their Quran is a sacred word, totally perfect with no mistakes or flaws, therefore they never think about its content.
As a result, the devout Muslim became slow-minded/moronic because, he lost the talent to suspect and to critically think in his religious texts, and became simply a reservoir to store these scriptures and to apply them mindlessly, and for that every reason, a such evil nation is born in this world.
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
skysaw wrote:
Tequila wrote:
Personally, I find Islam to be a deeply unpleasant, supremacist, misogynist and racist religion, particularly in the Deobandi/Salafi/Wahhabi strain that dominates today.
Lol 'racist' huh? Did your Zionist websites tell you that?
No, Tequila. Judaism is the racially supremacist religion. Islam is an ideologically supremacist yet racially universalist version of Judaism. But since your Zionist websites don't explain this to you I suppose it's too much to expect you to figure this out for yourself.
Yet Islam allows raping non-muslim women just because they're non-muslims of defeated tribes, these are things as bad as racist crimes.
You said it, "Islam is an ideologically supremacist yet racially universalist version of Judaism".
They both suck.
Also some caliphates did imply Arab-supremacist policies during their rule, why do they think today Farsi is written in Arabic script for instance? (which wasn't originally written in the Arabic script).

Translation: 99.9% of Muslims believe that their Quran is a sacred word, totally perfect with no mistakes or flaws, therefore they never think about its content.
As a result, the devout Muslim became slow-minded/moronic because, he lost the talent to suspect and to critically think in his religious texts, and became simply a reservoir to store these scriptures and to apply them mindlessly, and for that every reason, a such evil nation is born in this world.
Yeah, this is BS.
I am a white bisexual and I live in a pretty diverse city, which has many Muslims, and many White Women. And I have only ever had a handful of negative experiences with Muslims, most of whom would probably be sh***y people if they weren't Muslim.
And 99.9% of Muslims do not believe that the Koran is a sacred word, I can assure you. Over the course of my years I have had many reasonable debates surrounding religion with Muslim friends, they are willing to debate it and most of them know it well.
Most heavily religious Muslims are no better than heavy religious Christians.
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And 99.9% of Muslims do not believe that the Koran is a sacred word.
Wrong, believing the Koran as the God's word is the most fundamental core element in the Islamic faith.
I live among Muslims, I was one, check my location - so I have no doubt in what you are saying. However, behind the doors, some would say things in front of me that wouldn't say it in front of you, I know this because I live in a country where half of its population is Christian.
You should believe what I am telling you, I was a muslim in my youth, you weren't, and I am telling that the vast majority of muslims view the koran as a direct word from God.
But most Muslims aren't really real Muslims, they believe in a heavily-embellished version of Islam and are taught since they were kids of a heavily-embellished version of Mohammad. And when they see what ISIS is doing they cry like Omg this is not Islam!.... they have no idea what the real Islam really is, very few of them ever fully read the Koran, its interpretations and the related hadith and analysis, I dare even to say that some read it as a part of ritual during the fasting month without even fully understanding it.
Mohammad is like how Christopher Columbus was to Americans, how many Americans were raised on the idea that Christopher Columbus was a hero and a great explorer? Very few learned that he was a racist, bigoted slaver and mass killer and this became known (limited) only recently.
Professional_edgelord wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
skysaw wrote:
Tequila wrote:
Personally, I find Islam to be a deeply unpleasant, supremacist, misogynist and racist religion, particularly in the Deobandi/Salafi/Wahhabi strain that dominates today.
Lol 'racist' huh? Did your Zionist websites tell you that?
No, Tequila. Judaism is the racially supremacist religion. Islam is an ideologically supremacist yet racially universalist version of Judaism. But since your Zionist websites don't explain this to you I suppose it's too much to expect you to figure this out for yourself.
Yet Islam allows raping non-muslim women just because they're non-muslims of defeated tribes, these are things as bad as racist crimes.
You said it, "Islam is an ideologically supremacist yet racially universalist version of Judaism".
They both suck.
Also some caliphates did imply Arab-supremacist policies during their rule, why do they think today Farsi is written in Arabic script for instance? (which wasn't originally written in the Arabic script).

Translation: 99.9% of Muslims believe that their Quran is a sacred word, totally perfect with no mistakes or flaws, therefore they never think about its content.
As a result, the devout Muslim became slow-minded/moronic because, he lost the talent to suspect and to critically think in his religious texts, and became simply a reservoir to store these scriptures and to apply them mindlessly, and for that every reason, a such evil nation is born in this world.
Yeah, this is BS.
I am a white bisexual and I live in a pretty diverse city, which has many Muslims, and many White Women. And I have only ever had a handful of negative experiences with Muslims, most of whom would probably be sh***y people if they weren't Muslim.
And 99.9% of Muslims do not believe that the Koran is a sacred word, I can assure you. Over the course of my years I have had many reasonable debates surrounding religion with Muslim friends, they are willing to debate it and most of them know it well.
Most heavily religious Muslims are no better than heavy religious Christians.
So you know some Muslims in a Canadian city and now think you know what 99% of Muslims who most of which live in Middle East and Africa beleive.
Barchan wrote:
Tequila wrote:
Allah was Muhammad and Muhammad was Allah. The entire thing is basically Muhammad claiming his will is the will of Allah. Muslims are really revering Muhammad instead of Allah - the whole 'religion' is a cult of Muhammad.
Personally, I find Islam to be a deeply unpleasant, supremacist, misogynist and racist religion
Personally, I find Islam to be a deeply unpleasant, supremacist, misogynist and racist religion
So your problem isn't with radical Islam, but Islam itself. Well, thanks for being honest at least.
Regarding the accusations you level against Muhammad, if you do a bit of research you'll quickly find that the charges of murder are greatly exaggerated. The Qurayza people were allies of Muhammad who committed treason and were found guilty in a lawful trial. The execution of Qurayza combatants does not satisfy even the most liberal definition of the word "murder." Asma bint Marwan was a dangerous revolutionary who called for violence against Muhammad.
Give me a break. He was a violent religious warlord who spread Islam by the sword and set the tone for Muslims the world over. I'm quite sure any trials they had would not meet modern standards of justice.
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I'm sorry to hear that, and I hope that you someday find your way back.
I very much doubt he will. Although I disagree with him on Israel (a lot of that may come from living in an enemy country), I don't think he is a bad person.
But you would not support any social, legal or other sanctions for people wanting to leave Islam, right?
The "death for apostasy" rule in Islam is wrong, correct?
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Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.'
— Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:260
— Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:260
Personally, I support people being able to become Muslim if that's what they want and that's what makes them happy. I also support minority Muslim sects being able to identify as Muslim if they wish (the Ahmadiyya being the most notable one - the recent killing of Asad Shah was vile and disgusting). I also think people should be supported if they leave Islam, though I don't have much time for Maryam Namazie due to her communist political beliefs.
Most converts in Britain at least are women who want to marry a Muslim man. It's rarer for people to convert otherwise, though it does happen. Most converts don't last more than a year or two in Islam, and many leave quite quickly after realising that it's not for them. Muslims generally aren't recruiting a lot of people outside their own communities, although you get the dawah stalls in big cities.
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skysaw wrote:
Lol 'racist' huh? Did your Zionist websites tell you that?
Islam is also anti-Christian, in fact it is anti-non-Muslim full stop. The wars against non-Muslims throughout the centuries have been based on the dictates of the book. The whole point is that whilst Christians have only relatively recently stopped using their holy book to persecute minorities, Islam has never stopped.
Here's another video that I'm sure you'll rather like:
Here's a recent video, taken from Palestinian Authority official TV, an official preacher calls for Jewish genocide and for the "wicked" Jews to be punished:
One has to wonder how Muslims would react if Israeli TV was calling for the genocide of Muslims every week, and Israeli Jews were killing or trying to kill Muslims every week.
Yes, it is a Zionist source, before you ask.
I'll let you stew in your hate.
Must go, have to go post some UKIP leaflets.
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AspE wrote:
Give me a break. He was a violent religious warlord who spread Islam by the sword and set the tone for Muslims the world over. I'm quite sure any trials they had would not meet modern standards of justice.
Mohammed did not start out that way. He startrd out as an honest merchant who was generally held in high regard for his honesty. However somewhere along the line he had mental problems because he imagined Gabriel, an arch angel of the Lord, came to him and recited the q'ran. No human was in the Cave except Mohammed and we have only his unsupported word that he received a revelation from the mouth of an angel.
Our mental institutions today are filled with people who are convinced that God has spoken to them or that an angel or a devil has spoken to them.
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AspE wrote:
He was a violent religious warlord who spread Islam by the sword and set the tone for Muslims the world over. I'm quite sure any trials they had would not meet modern standards of justice.
You're "quite sure"?
It seems to me like you're revising and reinterpreting the facts to confirm your own bias
Tequila wrote:
Barchan wrote:
I'm sorry to hear that, and I hope that you someday find your way back.
I very much doubt he will. Although I disagree with him on Israel (a lot of that may come from living in an enemy country), I don't think he is a bad person.
W o a h.
Are you saying Muslims are bad people? Are you calling me a bad person?
Barchan wrote:
AspE wrote:
He was a violent religious warlord who spread Islam by the sword and set the tone for Muslims the world over. I'm quite sure any trials they had would not meet modern standards of justice.
You're "quite sure"?
It seems to me like you're revising and reinterpreting the facts to confirm your own bias
I'm quite sure there weren't too many trials back then in any culture that modern people would call just. Islamic ones even less so, since even modern Islamic jurisprudence is highly unjust.
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W o a h.
Are you saying Muslims are bad people? Are you calling me a bad person?
Are you saying Muslims are bad people? Are you calling me a bad person?
Heh. I don't think that was the link he was making, rather an acknowledgement that holding a different opinion doesn't make someone automatically bad. A good thing to realise and somewhat rare in modern debate.
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