androbot01
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19 Feb 2017, 4:59 pm
It's never fake news when Trump, his friends and supporters mention it. It only applies to when others do it. That's their messed up logic!
These people have literally no shame and act like they are the only ones that matter. It's sickening.
It's an attack on Western thinking and it doesn't just effect the States. Perhaps we've already fallen into the dark ages and are just enjoying the last glimpses of light.
19 Feb 2017, 5:03 pm
Trump was referencing Sweden being the rape capital of the world after letting in hundreds of thousands of refugees, something a lot of Swedes are still in denial about.
He specifically mentions something that happened "last night." What was it?
It's an ongoing issue in Sweden
Trump probably watched a Tucker Carlson segment from the night before
androbot01
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19 Feb 2017, 5:08 pm
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19 Feb 2017, 5:36 pm
New personal pledge: once a user gets to three lies or factual errors in a political thread, I won't respond to them again in that thread. I'm not going to force everyone to read tedious checks of every single claim, I think by the time you get to three then the message gets across that the person is either deliberately deceiving or so dismissive of intellectual rigour that it amounts to the same thing.
Tempted to call this two but I guess I'll let "the media made up the term" slide.
That's exactly the context it was repeatedly used in well before the election or Trump trying to call CNN "fake".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... dcdb0e8b80
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... fact-check
http://www.snopes.com/2016/01/14/fake-news-sites/
This CNN piece from before the election does include hyperpartisan outlets which only report good news for one side and bad news for the other. Again, you can't accuse any of the "mainstream" outlets Trump cries about of doing this. All of them publish negative stories about Democrats and positive stories about Republicans. Indeed, they all reported Comey's announcement that his department was re-opening their investigation into Clinton (you'll remember that, once again, they found no evidence of wrongdoing).
I think it's Trump and his supporters who don't comprehend the bubble they live in. Most Americans see Trump attacking ordinary journalists and roll their eyes. That's partly why his approval ratings are so low. No doubt there's a lot of mistrust of the mainstream media out there, but I wonder what percentage of Americans believe the Bowling Green massacre was real, that there was a terrorist attack in Sweden recently, or that the travel ban rollout was "smooth"?
No, the media reports on similar stories because they all want to report interesting stories. This happens all the time. One of them finds something good (or they all get it from the same source, like a press release, press conference, or an agency like Reuters), everyone hops on it hoping to engage their audience. For example, this story was reported by every outlet going. Is it a product of the New World Order?2/3.
)Politifact also give it a better rating than the other big four cable news networks (ABC, Fox, NBC): http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/cnn/
ABC is not far behind, nor is CBS although that has a much smaller sample. 41% of statements on NBC are lies, while 59% are on Fox.
That's 3/3.
19 Feb 2017, 6:02 pm
Tempted to call this two but I guess I'll let "the media made up the term" slide.
That's exactly the context it was repeatedly used in well before the election or Trump trying to call CNN "fake".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... dcdb0e8b80
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... fact-check
http://www.snopes.com/2016/01/14/fake-news-sites/
This CNN piece from before the election does include hyperpartisan outlets which only report good news for one side and bad news for the other. Again, you can't accuse any of the "mainstream" outlets Trump cries about of doing this. All of them publish negative stories about Democrats and positive stories about Republicans. Indeed, they all reported Comey's announcement that his department was re-opening their investigation into Clinton (you'll remember that, once again, they found no evidence of wrongdoing).
I think it's Trump and his supporters who don't comprehend the bubble they live in. Most Americans see Trump attacking ordinary journalists and roll their eyes. That's partly why his approval ratings are so low. No doubt there's a lot of mistrust of the mainstream media out there, but I wonder what percentage of Americans believe the Bowling Green massacre was real, that there was a terrorist attack in Sweden recently, or that the travel ban rollout was "smooth"?
No, the media reports on similar stories because they all want to report interesting stories. This happens all the time. One of them finds something good (or they all get it from the same source, like a press release, press conference, or an agency like Reuters), everyone hops on it hoping to engage their audience. For example, this story was reported by every outlet going. Is it a product of the New World Order?2/3.
)Politifact also give it a better rating than the other big four cable news networks (ABC, Fox, NBC): http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/cnn/
ABC is not far behind, nor is CBS although that has a much smaller sample. 41% of statements on NBC are lies, while 59% are on Fox.
That's 3/3.
What is this all about? (The not responding to people part)
19 Feb 2017, 6:16 pm
Here you go again with polls, I thought you would think of better arguments after getting egg on your face so many times appealing to the authority the agenda driven corporate media. We've had the argument a number of times and you were wrong and still can't admit it, it makes sense when you say 'affluent Europeans' all watch CNN why they are so misinformed. You can never understand the nuances of American politics by looking at polls, you really have no idea what you are talking about. 'Fake news' was a narrative that was simultaneously being pushed along with the 'Russians hacked the election' nonsense, the insinuations made by the media went well beyond spoof websites. All these media outlets didn't all the sudden get concerned about clickbait BS, there is an agenda in every narrative they push.
Trump's approval rating is fine, Rasmussen has him at 55% and he's about where Obama was at most of his presidency overall. If you believe Trump's approval rating is in the 30s or whatever then you probably believed Trump really was down 12% a week before the election. More Americans believe Trump than they do the mainstream media, this has been verified by the polls you love.
Bowling Green referred to terrorists who wanted to smuggle weapons into Iraq and to kill American soldiers in the middle east, you dismiss this as irrelevant as you grasp at anything negative about Trump. They are terrorists all the same, terrorists that commit attacks in other countries do not deserve in this country.
Since you don't live in this country and didn't even see what was going to happen in your own country I am not sure how you can say I live in a bubble, I've been spot on for how long now? For all the attempts a lecturing, I've been right which I am sure just absolutely kills you inside.
What about Comey now? I think you are letting your partisan butthurt spill over there.
about media collusion
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5953
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/em ... #efmAD-AMa
https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/4664
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/em ... #efmAByAEV
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/em ... mAE6AF-AG1
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/em ... 6BAICwpCx4
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/844
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/em ... #efmBKsBMU
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5502
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/em ... #efmAcTAdS
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8460
politifact is biased garbage
http://i.imgur.com/Y9j7AKp.png
see I can google like you too
19 Feb 2017, 6:19 pm
bonus 'fact check' for the lulz 
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19 Feb 2017, 7:03 pm
you folks make such incredible leaps
Trump said he Swedish once but it turns out upon further research he's German! Stop the presses, this man is not qualified for office!
fwiw the story I think was that Donald's father Fred Trump told everybody including his family that he was Swedish after WWII for decades apparently because he had a lot of Jewish tenants.
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